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Re: BCB favourite Kraftwerk songs

Postby Positive Passion » 09 Jun 2019, 19:18

Minnie the Minx wrote:I have more than twenty songs. I just can't get with putting them in order.
How do we get round this problem?


I'll put them in order for you.......

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Re: BCB favourite Kraftwerk songs

Postby goldstoned » 11 Jun 2019, 14:52

This is my choice.

1. Neonlicht
2. Computerliebe
3. Mensch-Maschine
4. Trans Europa Express
5. Computerwelt
6. Europa Endlos
7. Radioaktivität
8. Tour de france (1983)
9. Ruckzuck
10. Nummern

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Re: BCB favourite Kraftwerk songs

Postby Positive Passion » 16 Jun 2019, 10:20

Any more? Lists in by Sat 22 June.

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Re: BCB favourite Kraftwerk - songs lists in by June 22

Postby Positive Passion » 13 Jul 2019, 06:08

Here are the results:

39 - Harmonika 5
38- la forme 5
37 - electro cardiogram 6
36 - antenna 7
35 - telephone call 9
34 - house computer 10
33 - kometenmelodie 1 10
32 - it's more fun to compute 12
31 - metal on metal 15
30 - tongebirge 17
29 - techno pop 19
28 - wellenlange 19
27 - vitamin 20
26 - heimatklange 23
25 - musique non stop 23
24 - numbers 28
23 - franz schubert 31
22 - boing boom tschak 34
21 - hall of mirrors 36
20 - radioland 37
19 - pocket calculator 41
18 - the model 47
17 - computer world 47
16 - spacelab 49
15 - metropolis 49
14 - ruckzuck 51
13 - computer love 54
12 - tanzmusik 61
11 - ohm sweet ohm 71
10 - kometenmelodie 2 73
9 - man machine 84
8 - robots 90
7 - europe endless 94
6 - autobahn 94
5 - showroom dummies 98
4 - tour de france 108
3 - trans europe express 117
2 - radioactivity 126
1 - neon lights 140
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Re: BCB favourite Kraftwerk - Results up now!!

Postby never/ever » 13 Jul 2019, 11:30

Hooray!

If you have time, could you post the points as well?
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Re: BCB favourite Kraftwerk - Results up now!!

Postby C » 13 Jul 2019, 13:26

kometenmelodie 2

10th....?!





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Re: BCB favourite Kraftwerk - Results up now!!

Postby Positive Passion » 13 Jul 2019, 15:59

never/ever wrote:Hooray!

If you have time, could you post the points as well?


Now added above. A very low turn out.

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Re: BCB favourite Kraftwerk - Results up now!!

Postby Darkness_Fish » 13 Jul 2019, 21:00

It's a weird world indeed, when "Neon Lights" is the definitive Kraftwerk song. "Hall of Mirrors" and "Ruckzuck" have been shamefully treated.
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Re: BCB favourite Kraftwerk - Results up now!!

Postby Positive Passion » 14 Jul 2019, 06:25

Darkness_Fish wrote:It's a weird world indeed, when "Neon Lights" is the definitive Kraftwerk song. "Hall of Mirrors" and "Ruckzuck" have been shamefully treated.


Well it is the one voters like best, rather than the definitive song. It appeared in every list, and was in the top 5 of 5 lists. A vote to pick the song most representative of their work would probably throw up a different song (although radioactivity, number 2 here, may well be in for a shout).

But the top nine includes all their most famous songs except numbers and the model, which is logical. Compare to the Queen poll, where Brighton Rock came third.

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Re: BCB favourite Kraftwerk - Results up now!!

Postby Darkness_Fish » 14 Jul 2019, 10:14

Positive Passion wrote:
Darkness_Fish wrote:It's a weird world indeed, when "Neon Lights" is the definitive Kraftwerk song. "Hall of Mirrors" and "Ruckzuck" have been shamefully treated.


Well it is the one voters like best, rather than the definitive song. It appeared in every list, and was in the top 5 of 5 lists. A vote to pick the song most representative of their work would probably throw up a different song (although radioactivity, number 2 here, may well be in for a shout).

It wasn't in every list, I can assure you of that. I get the point, it was more a comment on the nature of BCB, I guess, that a fairly un-Kraftwerky song (imo) is the clear favourite. It seems to me that it wouldn't likely be top of any other wide grouping of kraftwerk fans. A lesser track, from a slightly lesser album.
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Re: BCB favourite Kraftwerk - Results up now!!

Postby Positive Passion » 14 Jul 2019, 10:46

Darkness_Fish wrote:
Positive Passion wrote:
Darkness_Fish wrote:It's a weird world indeed, when "Neon Lights" is the definitive Kraftwerk song. "Hall of Mirrors" and "Ruckzuck" have been shamefully treated.


Well it is the one voters like best, rather than the definitive song. It appeared in every list, and was in the top 5 of 5 lists. A vote to pick the song most representative of their work would probably throw up a different song (although radioactivity, number 2 here, may well be in for a shout).

It wasn't in every list, I can assure you of that.


It was in every list. Even you had it at number 15.

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Re: BCB favourite Kraftwerk - Results up now!!

Postby Darkness_Fish » 14 Jul 2019, 11:19

Woah! Witchcraft!
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Re: BCB favourite Kraftwerk - Results up now!!

Postby C » 14 Jul 2019, 12:39

Darkness_Fish wrote:it was more a comment on the nature of BCB, I guess.


Which is what my learned friend?

Which is what?





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Re: BCB favourite Kraftwerk - Results up now!!

Postby trans-chigley express » 15 Jul 2019, 12:48

I'm somewhat surprised at how high Showroom Dummies is on the list and very pleased to see Europe Endless so high.

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Re: BCB favourite Kraftwerk - Results up now!!

Postby trans-chigley express » 15 Jul 2019, 12:52

The Guardian's List of best Kraftwerk songs doesn't feature Neon Lights at all (no Radioactivity either) and has a very surprising choice at no.1

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Re: BCB favourite Kraftwerk - Results up now!!

Postby ConnyOlivetti » 15 Jul 2019, 13:28

trans-chigley express wrote:The Guardian's List of best Kraftwerk songs doesn't feature Neon Lights at all (no Radioactivity either) and has a very surprising choice at no.1


Strange list, not sure its meant to be in order, perhaps just the ten best track.
Really strange to include the track Régéneration as its only 1.16 sec long!?
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Re: BCB favourite Kraftwerk - Results up now!!

Postby C » 15 Jul 2019, 16:08

ConnyOlivetti wrote:Régéneration [...] only 1.16 sec long!?


Sorry to correct you my dear learned friend, but it is 1min 16 secs long not 1.16 secs






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Re: BCB favourite Kraftwerk - Results up now!!

Postby Darkness_Fish » 15 Jul 2019, 17:39

C wrote:
Darkness_Fish wrote:it was more a comment on the nature of BCB, I guess.


Which is what my learned friend?

Which is what?





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Ach, I don't know, just that the majority opinion tends towards the more melodic, and the less experimental. Kraftwerk, I tend to think of being more sonically adventurous, whereas "Neon Lights" feels quite aimless and insubstantial once it's got its vocal hook out of the way. It seems a really odd choice to highlight as the best Kraftwerk song, from an admittedly small voting electorate. I figured it was comment-worthy, anyway.
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Re: BCB favourite Kraftwerk - Results up now!!

Postby The Slider » 15 Jul 2019, 23:29

I'm not sure in what way Neon Lights is any more or less experimental than anything else they recorded after 1974.
It is an aural cityscape.
It evokes a night time metropolis 40 years ago.
It sounds as essential to me now as it did then - and I did buy it as a new release on a 12" luminous vinyl single in 1978 - and I suspect that the reason it was chosen so often and placed so high in so many of those lists is because of the quality of its composition and form.
What you find "aimless and insubstantial" in the instrumental coda is the very thing I find most fascinating about it
It's richly evocative and has a weirdly narcotic feel.
As I said on page one, before the votes were even all in, it was obvious what would win the poll, simply because it is their richest, most picturesque and most substantial composition/performance.

"A lesser track, from a slightly lesser album" ?
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Re: BCB favourite Kraftwerk - Results up now!!

Postby ConnyOlivetti » 16 Jul 2019, 05:19

C wrote:
ConnyOlivetti wrote:Régéneration [...] only 1.16 sec long!?


Sorry to correct you my dear learned friend, but it is 1min 16 secs long not 1.16 secs

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