Prog Goons ONLY - is Griff right....?

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Well, is Griff right...?

Yes
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No
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Prog Goons ONLY - is Griff right....?

Postby C » 15 Dec 2018, 15:10

Nine Nancies Nancing wrote:
Butch Manly wrote:
Nine Nancies Nancing wrote:I remember reading somewhere that when they were recording this [The Yes Album], Anderson hung a copy of In The Court Of The Crimson King on the wall in the studio to remind the band of how high they were aiming.


In my view, they totally trounced it.


Personally, I wouldn't want to be without either one. Two stunningly phenomenal albums.


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C wrote:Griff - meaning Crimso were trounced....?
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Absolutely.


I couldn't live without either

An impossible call...


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Okay, no sitting on the fence goons...!





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Postby Quaco » 15 Dec 2018, 15:19

Pretty close, but I prefer The Yes Album. Not as iconic, but there's a bit more to it.
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Postby Hightea » 15 Dec 2018, 16:28

Court album blows the doors over the Yes Album.
Although two great albums
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Postby Neil Jung » 15 Dec 2018, 19:30

I’d go for Court. The Yes Album is fine but I prefer the versions on Yessongs which flow better and sound less stilted.
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Postby yomptepi » 15 Dec 2018, 19:40

I think ITCOTCK trips up with Moonchild. The Yes album has no such stumbles. And I prefer Lizard to the debut anyway.
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Postby Matt Wilson » 15 Dec 2018, 19:48

God, they're both classics. I'm not getting off the fence.
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Postby never/ever » 15 Dec 2018, 22:24

I love both but it's the Yes Album I play more these days.
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Postby Quaco » 15 Dec 2018, 22:46

What we have learned here is that King Crimson fans are more unconventional. They don't conform to anybody's rules! You can't make THEM vote. While Yes fans vote silently, anonymously.
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Postby never/ever » 15 Dec 2018, 23:01

Quaco wrote:What we have learned here is that King Crimson fans are more unconventional. They don't conform to anybody's rules! You can't make THEM vote. While Yes fans vote silently, anonymously.


That's reverse symptomatic for any of Coan's 'BCB-personal' polls where even the aliases appear from out of the woodwork....
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Postby Bent Fabric » 15 Dec 2018, 23:07

I love Court, but TYA is easily my favorite of the two.

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Postby Jeemo » 15 Dec 2018, 23:36

yomptepi wrote:I think ITCOTCK trips up with Moonchild. The Yes album has no such stumbles. And I prefer Lizard to the debut anyway.


and the Yes Album has A Venture and (The) Clap.
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Postby robertff » 16 Dec 2018, 07:54

Like both but listen to the Yes Album far more, so Yes it is.

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Postby WG Kaspar » 16 Dec 2018, 08:45

I listen to Yes album more too and prefer Yes is general but in this instance the Crimson album takes it, in fact I'd take it over any Yes album. Crimson created something unique with this album almost otherworldly that nor they or anyone else managed to replicate. It's like their Astral Weeks.
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Postby yomptepi » 16 Dec 2018, 11:19

WG Kaspar wrote:I listen to Yes album more too and prefer Yes is general but in this instance the Crimson album takes it, in fact I'd take it over any Yes album. Crimson created something unique with this album almost otherworldly that nor they or anyone else managed to replicate. It's like their Astral Weeks.


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Postby WG Kaspar » 16 Dec 2018, 11:58

yomptepi wrote:
WG Kaspar wrote:I listen to Yes album more too and prefer Yes is general but in this instance the Crimson album takes it, in fact I'd take it over any Yes album. Crimson created something unique with this album almost otherworldly that nor they or anyone else managed to replicate. It's like their Astral Weeks.


Christ. It isn't that bad.

How hot hot. It's definitely not that good.
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Postby C » 16 Dec 2018, 15:32

I love them, both and it is difficult to get off the fence

I play them both about the same but there is soemthing very special about the Crimso album. Very special.

I love Moonchild and of course all the other tracks are corkers.

For every Yes track I can think of the equal match up

Crimso has it. Yes, Crimso has it





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Postby C » 29 Dec 2018, 15:36

I'm not sure the lad is right....





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Postby toomanyhatz » 29 Dec 2018, 17:44

I'm not a goon, more of a prog dilettante, but these are albums my kind gravitates toward.

Anyway, it's not a trouncing, but I have generally rated Yes higher, uh...yes.

I still think Crimson gets overrated for getting there first when they didn't really invent anything, and, as others have said, it's maybe not even their pinnacle. Whereas for me, tYA definitely is.

Anyway:

Lake>Anderson
Howe>>Fripp
Squire>>>Lake
Bruford>>>>Giles
MacDonald>>>>Kaye
Sinfield>Anderson (though lyrics are not that important to either album's case).

So it's pretty close on paper, but I'm with Quaco - tYA just runs deeper. Though I guess Griff iswrong in that it's close...
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Postby Mike Boom » 29 Dec 2018, 23:27

He's bang on.

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Re: Prog Goons ONLY - is Griff right....?

Postby slightbreeze » 30 Dec 2018, 00:40

Both great, but Yes album is more consistent.