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Re: RIP Pete Shelley

Postby Belle Lettre » 06 Dec 2018, 22:41

Dreadful news
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Re: RIP Pete Shelley

Postby Ghost of Harry Smith » 06 Dec 2018, 22:46

Very sad news, he seemed like such a gent. Saw them play a couple of years ago and they still looked like they were having a helluva good time onstage.

My Buzzcocks story is that I gave Pete and Steve a jar of magic mushrooms and some pot during their first tour of Australia in 1990. They gave me lots of merch and tickets to all the east coast shows I wanted, even though their actual experience wasn’t all that pleasant, as they overindulged. Much hotel-based paranoid merriment ensued. It was such a hilarious tour, they were a smart and funny bunch. Vale Pete.
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Re: RIP Pete Shelley

Postby Minnie Cheddars » 06 Dec 2018, 23:11

This is a cunt’s bag of shit, this
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Re: RIP Pete Shelley

Postby Bent Fabric » 06 Dec 2018, 23:23

Minnie Cheddars wrote:This is a cunt’s bag of shit, this


Seconded.

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Re: RIP Pete Shelley

Postby Ranking Ted » 06 Dec 2018, 23:38

Bent Fabric wrote:
Minnie Cheddars wrote:This is a cunt’s bag of shit, this


Seconded.

Indeed. What a legacy, those three minute blasts of bittersweet pop are perfection. RIP.

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Re: RIP Pete Shelley

Postby toomanyhatz » 06 Dec 2018, 23:40

Thank you, Pete.

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I only realized later that the Buzzcocks were already doing it. I can't think of another band that so neatly fit a picture in my head of the kind of band that 'should' exist. I don't listen to them as much as I used to - probably don't like them as much as I used to either - but I still hold them dear. They feel very personal to me, almost like I retroactively invented them.
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Re: RIP Pete Shelley

Postby slightbreeze » 06 Dec 2018, 23:57

Deeply saddened by the news. If any young aspiring musicians want to learn about how to write perfect pop songs, just listen to the Buzzcocks.

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Re: RIP Pete Shelley

Postby Snarfyguy » 07 Dec 2018, 01:02

toomanyhatz wrote: the Beatles

Funny you bring them up because the two times I saw him/them, that was the only reference point I could come up with to frame the sheer exuberance of the performance and my experience of it. I recall wiping away tears of JOY.

But now I'm wiping away tears of sorrow.

And AGAIN I'm reminded of John Lennon's line "Is it for her or myself that I cry?"
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Re: RIP Pete Shelley

Postby fange » 07 Dec 2018, 01:14

Ahh fuck. :( I say this too often - much too young.

RIP Pete, and thank you.

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Re: RIP Pete Shelley

Postby SWIMMING POOL HARRINGTON » 07 Dec 2018, 01:15

They're a band we've always been very fond of, here. They often win polls - even when they're pitted against the likes of The Clash or The Pistols. It's always nice to see that. And to hear Shelley was a lovely fella. The older I get the more I treasure that sort of thing, and of course the sadder that makes this news.

I wonder how long it is since he was bashing away on stage....probably not long at all. Ah, life :cry:
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Re: RIP Pete Shelley

Postby Minnie Cheddars » 07 Dec 2018, 01:40

They were due to play a show on the 14th.
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Re: RIP Pete Shelley

Postby Charlie O. » 07 Dec 2018, 02:37

To cop a move from hatz...

two years ago, I wrote:It may seem strange to call a band "brave" for writing songs about love and relationships... but it does seem like most if not all of the other British punk bands of that moment may have thought that that was a pretty boring or passe thing to do (the Slits and Raincoats are the only other bands I can think of that did this at all, and they didn't specialize in it to the extent that Buzzcocks did). And Shelley proved them wrong by writing a few dozen really fecking brilliant songs about love and relationships that were also fecking brilliant punk rock records.

I don't know if I could convince anyone that that makes them "important," but I kinda think maybe it does.

Just a few weeks ago I bought a book of Shelley's lyrics, because... well, I'd wanted one for thirty years, and now one was available! :) He really was a master. And the 'cocks' best records got me through a few tough times (and any number of good times, too).

One of the best songs ever written:





... and a personal "pet" fave - they threw it away on some NME freebie around the time they split up in '81, but I think it should have been their "last" 45 - it is a joyous thing, and not a bad epitaph (then or now):





Bless you and rest you, Pete.
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Re: RIP Pete Shelley

Postby Minnie Cheddars » 07 Dec 2018, 13:27

Two pages?
Come on you fucking cunts.
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Re: RIP Pete Shelley

Postby Lord Rother » 07 Dec 2018, 14:14

Nice.

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Re: RIP Pete Shelley

Postby Minnie Cheddars » 07 Dec 2018, 14:20

Lord Rother wrote:Nice.



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Re: RIP Pete Shelley

Postby Minnie Cheddars » 07 Dec 2018, 14:22

Lets not do this on Pete’s thread actually. I’ll start a new one.
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Re: RIP Pete Shelley

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For all the talk about perfect pop (and it is) there was always something hard about the ‘cocks.
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Re: RIP Pete Shelley

Postby clive gash » 07 Dec 2018, 14:44

A heady whiff of otherness

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Re: RIP Pete Shelley

Postby Deebank » 07 Dec 2018, 14:46

R6 was playing wall to wall 'cocks / Shelley earlier, as is fitting.
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Re: RIP Pete Shelley

Postby Deebank » 07 Dec 2018, 14:49

Always loved this one:



Especially good over the opening sequence of 'so bad it's almost good' 80s teen movie The Party Animal.
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