Albums (or singles) that invented an entire genre

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Postby sloopjohnc » 06 Dec 2018, 00:06

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Nervous Ned wrote:I’d love to know why anyone would claim Low invented electro pop when it is clearly not electro pop itself! Kraftwerk had already released Autobahn and Radioactivity and can lay a better claim to that title.


What rot!

Bowie sped it up, added tunes, took it to the top ten.


The question isn't who made it popular, but who invented it. Bowie was a master thief. That's not a bad thing when it comes to pop music, by the way.
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Postby SWIMMING POOL HARRINGTON » 06 Dec 2018, 00:17

oh, OK :x
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Fats invents blue beat

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Postby Muskrat » 06 Dec 2018, 01:12

Supposedly the first one of these (unless you count Train Kept a Rollin', which was also Grady Martin, depending on who you believe)



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Postby GoogaMooga » 06 Dec 2018, 02:21

In just about every case, there will be antecedents. And antecedents to antecedents. Going all the way back to when the caveman banged two rocks together.

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Postby Geezee » 06 Dec 2018, 10:37

Young Marble Giant's Colossal Youth really set the template for lo-fi indie didn't it?
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Postby Rayge » 06 Dec 2018, 11:03

Geezee wrote:Young Marble Giant's Colossal Youth really set the template for lo-fi indie didn't it?


Didn't seem that way at the time. There was a lot of that kind of thing about on singles, which I was buying in industrial quantities at the time – I think the lo-fi sound was as much a function of the independent label scene itself, with bands going down the Desperate Bicycles shoestring route of recording and issuing material on their own imprints. While the Moxham brothers were deliberately minimalistic, they were basically adapting pre-existing pop forms to home-made synth , drum machine and bass backing to showcase Alison's voice and Stuart's songs, which to me, always had a delightful pop sensibility to them.
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SWIMMING POOL HARRINGTON wrote:oh, OK :x


I tried not to be too "cryptic." Can't win for losing. . .
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Is this the ‘Ur-moment’ for Goth? I know there’s precursors like ‘Some Velvet Morning’ or some acid folk thing but ‘80s Goth as the genre become defined.

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Re: Albums (or singles) that invented an entire genre

Postby GoogaMooga » 07 Dec 2018, 07:04

George McCrae . Rock Your Baby (1974) (disco)
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GoogaMooga wrote:George McCrae . Rock Your Baby (1974) (disco)


There were many proto disco songs Googa, it's impossible to say which was first, but it would certainly be earlier than 74.

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Postby GoogaMooga » 07 Dec 2018, 13:31

The Modernist wrote:
GoogaMooga wrote:George McCrae . Rock Your Baby (1974) (disco)


There were many proto disco songs Googa, it's impossible to say which was first, but it would certainly be earlier than 74.


Some of which were Philly soul dance numbers, anyway, it's often cited as the first (mainstream).
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Re: Albums (or singles) that invented an entire genre

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Lazy media. Lots of things sounded like that before.How is it much different to "Rock the Boat" which came out a year before.

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Re: Albums (or singles) that invented an entire genre

Postby Deebank » 07 Dec 2018, 14:43

Post punk... arguably:

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Levine's guitar sound invented goth (guitar sound wise) too.
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Postby Rayge » 07 Dec 2018, 14:49

The Modernist wrote:Lazy media. Lots of things sounded like that before.How is it much different to "Rock the Boat" which came out a year before.

And how the fuck is Rock Your Baby disco anyway?
This one's got the euro stomp beat although probably a bit too fast for the average northern soulster), space age sounds and silly words about dancing delivered in very high voices, and it's from 1963.
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Postby Rayge » 07 Dec 2018, 14:50

And there's this: first frantic fringe twerk-orama

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Re: Albums (or singles) that invented an entire genre

Postby Rayge » 07 Dec 2018, 15:04

While this one invented Patti Smith




although every version on youtube sounds way too feeble compared with the dynamic range of a 7", even if it purports to be a recording of the single
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