Are the Esher Demos worth it?

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Re: Are the Esher Demos worth it?

Postby Bent Fabric » 12 Nov 2018, 17:12

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Charlie O. wrote:A fun(?) thought: we've always talked about whittling the White Album down to one LP... or not. But I say it could have been a triple!

Bearing in mind that there are five normal-length LP sides' worth of music squashed into those four sides... they only would have had to fill another 17-20 minutes to make a triple with normal-length sides. And they had "Junk", "Circles", "Sour Milk Sea", "Mean Mr. Mustard", "Polythene Pam", "Not Guilty", "Child Of Nature" (maybe Paul could have encouraged John to write a better lyric - although it probably wouldn't have been "Jealous Guy" at that point), "Look At Me", "You Know My Name" and a few others to pick from...


Well, "Across the Universe", absolutely.


No reason to exclude "Hey Jude"/"Revolution"


That's not how THEY tell it...

Incidentally, am I the only person who prefers "Revolution 1" to "Revolution"?

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Re: Are the Esher Demos worth it?

Postby LeBaron » 12 Nov 2018, 17:44

'oh bee' wrote:It's just beatless ( :) ) acoustic strumming, like plain boiled rice.

The really good stuff is on discs 4 5 and 6.


I agree with that to some extent. It’s pretty simple, really. If the idea of the first demo of these songs is appealing to you, then you’ll be happy. I don’t expect I’ll listen to them that much, but I’m glad to have nice Copies. I’ve already listened to them (in this incarnation) two or three times. To be sure, I’ll give the studio stuff much more attention because that’s much more interesting to me.
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Re: Are the Esher Demos worth it?

Postby Phenomenal Cat » 12 Nov 2018, 18:30

Bent Fabric wrote:
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Well, "Across the Universe", absolutely.


No reason to exclude "Hey Jude"/"Revolution"


That's not how THEY tell it...

Incidentally, am I the only person who prefers "Revolution 1" to "Revolution"?


They are neck-and-neck for me. Sometimes the visceral rush of the 45 is the best thing in the world.

Regarding "Across the Universe" - I love the "sped-up" Past Masters version with the animal sounds. It would slot in nice with those Side Two tracks.
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Re: Are the Esher Demos worth it?

Postby Charlie O. » 12 Nov 2018, 20:56

Bent Fabric wrote:Incidentally, am I the only person who prefers "Revolution 1" to "Revolution"?

There was a thread on the subject a few years ago, and it turns out that you are very far from alone.

Frankly, I was disappointed.
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Re: Are the Esher Demos worth it?

Postby Sneelock » 12 Nov 2018, 23:35

I have a simple rule - all songs are improved by "shooby doo wa"s.
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Re: Are the Esher Demos worth it?

Postby Count Machuki » 13 Nov 2018, 00:05

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Re: Are the Esher Demos worth it?

Postby Sneelock » 13 Nov 2018, 08:27

:lol:
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Re: Are the Esher Demos worth it?

Postby ChrisChopping » 13 Nov 2018, 12:12

Some of the demos sound really great! Blackbird in particular stood out to me and the version of Piggies with acoustic picking sounds beautiful, perhaps better than the overly mannered final version.

It might be a stretch to call anything here essential but lots of it is very pleasurable to listen to.

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Re: Are the Esher Demos worth it?

Postby SWIMMING POOL HARRINGTON » 13 Nov 2018, 12:14

I wonder why they bundled these demos in with the remaster, and not the outtakes...
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Re: Are the Esher Demos worth it?

Postby yomptepi » 13 Nov 2018, 12:18

'oh bee' wrote:I wonder why they bundled these demos in with the remaster, and not the outtakes...


Indeed. Had the album come with a disc or two of the out takes, I would have bought it.
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Re: Are the Esher Demos worth it?

Postby ChrisChopping » 13 Nov 2018, 16:57

Every biography of the Beatles, every article about The White Album, makes mention of the Beatles going round to George’s place and strapping on the acoustics after getting back from India. As such these demos have attained a semi-legendary status. Saying this comes with the famous Esher Demos is probably more marketable than, this comes with Some Outtakes”.

Plus if you’re not a hardcore music nut, rough acoustic versions of fairly complete songs but be a more rewarding listen then various overdubs or instrumental takes or broken down takes etc.

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Re: Are the Esher Demos worth it?

Postby Bent Fabric » 13 Nov 2018, 17:05

ChrisChopping wrote:Saying this comes with the famous Esher Demos is probably more marketable than, this comes with Some Outtakes”.


"We've got to sell this shit" is an undeniable/massive piece of the whole endeavor.

That one and only one Beatles record contains a near full set of demos (whatever their merits...) is a hook they can't really sleep on.

Plus, why NOT put the real kick ass stuff only on the most expensive variant?

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Re: Are the Esher Demos worth it?

Postby Count Machuki » 13 Nov 2018, 17:06

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Plus, why NOT put the real kick ass stuff only on the most expensive variant?


*raises broke-ass hand*

Erm...


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Re: Are the Esher Demos worth it?

Postby Bent Fabric » 13 Nov 2018, 17:12

Precisely - the working classes get stuck with these half-assed demos while the 1% get to trip on "(You're so Square)..." in their mansions while eating...LOBSTER!!!

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Re: Are the Esher Demos worth it?

Postby Count Machuki » 13 Nov 2018, 17:36

Bent Fabric wrote:Precisely - the working classes get stuck with these half-assed demos while the 1% get to trip on "(You're so Square)..." in their mansions while eating...LOBSTER!!!


Yeah! As Paul McCartney famously said, "Damn the mutherfuckin Man!"

Somebody should write a song about those...PIGS.

On a tangential note, I keep thinking how grateful I am that ol' Charles Manson never heard that wild-ass take of 'Helter Skelter' :shock:
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Re: Are the Esher Demos worth it?

Postby Bent Fabric » 13 Nov 2018, 17:36

Oh, Charlie would have LOVED the Deluxe Edition.

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Re: Are the Esher Demos worth it?

Postby SWIMMING POOL HARRINGTON » 13 Nov 2018, 17:51

"any last requests, Charlie?"

"yeah - call those motherfuckers at Apple and get me take 2 of 'Piggies'..."
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Re: Are the Esher Demos worth it?

Postby Bent Fabric » 13 Nov 2018, 17:58

Earl E. Eel wrote:"any last requests, Charlie?"

"yeah - call those motherfuckers at Apple and get me take 2 of 'Piggies'..."


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Re: Are the Esher Demos worth it?

Postby sloopjohnc » 13 Nov 2018, 21:11

Bent Fabric wrote:Oh, Charlie would have LOVED the Deluxe Edition.


:lol:

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Re: Are the Esher Demos worth it?

Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 02 Dec 2018, 20:35

I bought the box (something I rarely do).

You get to be in the company of The Beatles, working their songs out. I’m as happy as a pig in shit.
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