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Re: Strangers in the Night

Postby Count Machuki » 01 Nov 2018, 19:34

Charlie - you're in position to help out on the Kaempfert Krusade.
Can we count on you to help get these garbage LPs out of circulation?
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Re: Strangers in the Night

Postby GoogaMooga » 01 Nov 2018, 19:38

Count Machuki wrote:Charlie - you're in position to help out on the Kaempfert Krusade.
Can we count on you to help get these garbage LPs out of circulation?


Would you consider listing the easy listening band leaders that you would nix? Kaempfert, Last, etc. I am pretty sure you have at least heard of all the major names.
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Re: Strangers in the Night

Postby Charlie O. » 01 Nov 2018, 19:39

I'm bad, Count, but I'm not worldwide.
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Re: Strangers in the Night

Postby GoogaMooga » 01 Nov 2018, 19:41

Charlie O. wrote:I'm bad, Count, but I'm not worldwide.


Easy listening has a hard time - too pop for classical purists, not pop enough for popsters, and not hard enough (or at all) for rockists.
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Re: Strangers in the Night

Postby Count Machuki » 01 Nov 2018, 19:48

GoogaMooga wrote:
Count Machuki wrote:Charlie - you're in position to help out on the Kaempfert Krusade.
Can we count on you to help get these garbage LPs out of circulation?


Would you consider listing the easy listening band leaders that you would nix? Kaempfert, Last, etc. I am pretty sure you have at least heard of all the major names.


Kaempfert records can go to the fire.
Ferrante & Teicher, outta there.
Norman Luboff Choir - not on my watch.
Jackie Gleason - nah, beat it
Percy Faith, Enoch Light, Hugo Winterhalter

All of this needs to get out of my dollar bins and now.
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Re: Strangers in the Night

Postby Charlie O. » 01 Nov 2018, 20:07

Count Machuki wrote:Ferrante & Teicher, outta there.

The early prepared piano albums are great fun!

Some of those early Enoch Light albums are okay, too.
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Re: Strangers in the Night

Postby GoogaMooga » 01 Nov 2018, 20:16

Count Machuki wrote:
Kaempfert records can go to the fire.
Ferrante & Teicher, outta there.
Norman Luboff Choir - not on my watch.
Jackie Gleason - nah, beat it
Percy Faith, Enoch Light, Hugo Winterhalter

All of this needs to get out of my dollar bins and now.


some of those I know by name only. Of course there will be easy that even I would sniff at. But some big names are among my heroes:

Percy Faith
James Last
Bert Kaempfert
Henry Mancini
Paul Mauriat
Ray Conniff
The Sandpipers
Herb Alpert & Tijuana Brass

there are more, of course...
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Re: Strangers in the Night

Postby Samoan » 01 Nov 2018, 20:28

I've plenty of time for Herb Alpert's vocals on the sublime Burt Bacharach song, This Guy's In Love With You -

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Re: Strangers in the Night

Postby Count Machuki » 01 Nov 2018, 20:35

Yeah, I don't put Alpert in with those others at all. He's welcome in the dollar bins.
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Re: Strangers in the Night

Postby Earl E. Eel » 01 Nov 2018, 20:37

This is sublime:

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Re: Strangers in the Night

Postby Count Machuki » 01 Nov 2018, 21:02

Charlie O. wrote:I think Coan and Googa are right. In America, at least, he still has real cachet. And I say that as one who is not personally a fan as such.


I think he's probably got cachet as a celebrity or an.."archetype," but probably not so much as a musician.
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Re: Strangers in the Night

Postby Positive Passion » 01 Nov 2018, 21:10

I like a bit of Frank. I love a decent swing arrangement. Recent copyright expiries mean you can get dirt cheap sets of albums by these classics singers like Peggy Lee, Julie London etc. Fantastic.
And you only have to listen to the records he did with Dean Martin and Sammy Davis to see he was head and shoulders above the rest.

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Re: Strangers in the Night

Postby Count Machuki » 01 Nov 2018, 21:38

I just put on a handful of Sinatra hits I thought I wanted to hear. Turns out I just want to smack him.
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Re: Strangers in the Night

Postby Matt Wilson » 01 Nov 2018, 22:03

:roll:
Coan wrote:'Vertigo' is one of the best things U2 have ever done, one of a handful of occasions where they get it just right. That bit near the end where the song lifts off? You don't get that with The Allman Brothers.

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Re: Strangers in the Night

Postby Earl E. Eel » 01 Nov 2018, 22:09

oh no! now you've upset Matthew!
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Re: Strangers in the Night

Postby zoomboogity » 02 Nov 2018, 00:35

RELD-LOMAX inc. wrote:This is sublime:




My favorite Herb Alpert song, or at least in the top two.

Trivia time: Hal Blaine is the only drummer to perform on six consecutive Record Of The Year Grammy awards:
1966 - A Taste Of Honey - Herb Alpert & the Tijuana Brass
1967 - Strangers in the Night - Frank Sinatra
1968 - Up, Up And Away - The 5th Dimension
1969 - Mrs. Robinson - Simon & Garfunkel
1970 - Aquarius/Let The Sun Shine In - The 5th Dimension
1971 - Bridge Over Troubled Water - Simon & Garfunkel

...which is cool, but did he do anything with Bent Fabric? NO? Then, shaddap!
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Re: Strangers in the Night

Postby GoogaMooga » 02 Nov 2018, 00:50

Bent Fabricius-Bjerre straddles both easy and pop.





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Re: Strangers in the Night

Postby The Modernist » 02 Nov 2018, 03:06

PENK wrote:
The Modernist wrote:
Charlie O. wrote:What more is there to say?


Well we could discuss whether he is a faded icon. Does his music still hold power over people in the 21st century?


No. I think it's largely viewed as music for your gran. He's lumped in with Bing and all the other crooners. A handful of record nerds might go on about Watertown and stuff but I think the general public just regards it all as kitschy old black-and-white stuff that they hear in films set in Vegas.


I agree.

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Re: Strangers in the Night

Postby Count Machuki » 02 Nov 2018, 03:06

RELD-LOMAX inc. wrote:oh no! now you've upset Matthew!


Easy, Pop!
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Re: Strangers in the Night

Postby The Modernist » 02 Nov 2018, 03:12

PENK wrote:I think it's a common BCB mistake - assuming people who get their music fix from the radio station playing on the work stereo or Spotify recommendations know about Sinatra's deep cuts and that kind of thing. They don't. They know about hits from the '80s on, and older stuff that was in a film they saw.


True. There was a funny episode of Pointless recently where they just had to name a Rolling Stones top 40 hit. The four couples knew about 3 Stones songs between them so it took them ages to complete the round!

going back to Sinatra though, even amongst record nerds I'm not sure Sinatra's stock is that high. I think people are still quite interested in the image..the sharp suits, the cocktails, the rat pack..all that. But I'm not sure many under 55 are actually listening to the music. Stuff from the pre-rock era speaks a language that I think many just don't get.