Symphonie fantastique vs. Rite of Spring
- Count Machuki
- BCB Cup Champion 2013
- Posts: 39534
- Joined: 11 Jun 2005, 15:28
- Location: HAIL, ATLANTA!
Symphonie fantastique vs. Rite of Spring
It's about time we did one of these wacky polls for some classical music.
Here's two biggies, or, as they're called among orchestral music cognoscenti, two "muthafuckers."
But which one's better?!
vs.
Here's two biggies, or, as they're called among orchestral music cognoscenti, two "muthafuckers."
But which one's better?!
vs.
Let U be the set of all united sets, K be the set of the kids and D be the set of things divided.
Then it follows that ∀ k ∈ K: K ∈ U ⇒ k ∉ D
Then it follows that ∀ k ∈ K: K ∈ U ⇒ k ∉ D
-
- Posts: 16161
- Joined: 16 Jul 2003, 20:43
Re: Symphonie fantastique vs. Rite of Spring
I love them both but I think The Rite Of Spring takes it.
- Count Machuki
- BCB Cup Champion 2013
- Posts: 39534
- Joined: 11 Jun 2005, 15:28
- Location: HAIL, ATLANTA!
Re: Symphonie fantastique vs. Rite of Spring
Berlioz is probably the underdog here, but at least he invented psychedelic music while he was at it.
Nice use of the dies irae, too!
Nice use of the dies irae, too!
Let U be the set of all united sets, K be the set of the kids and D be the set of things divided.
Then it follows that ∀ k ∈ K: K ∈ U ⇒ k ∉ D
Then it follows that ∀ k ∈ K: K ∈ U ⇒ k ∉ D
- The Modernist
- 2018 BCB Cup Champ!
- Posts: 13843
- Joined: 13 Apr 2014, 20:42
Re: Symphonie fantastique vs. Rite of Spring
A is boring.
B all the way!
B all the way!
- clive gash
- wannabee enfant terrible
- Posts: 17219
- Joined: 29 Sep 2007, 00:32
- Location: down the rabbit hole
Re: Symphonie fantastique vs. Rite of Spring
Berlioz (Les nuits d'été apart) is pretty meh.
Igor wins.
Igor wins.
It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man.
Diamond Dog wrote:...it quite clearly hit the target with you and your nonce...
...a multitude of innuendo and hearsay...
...I'm producing facts here...
- clive gash
- wannabee enfant terrible
- Posts: 17219
- Joined: 29 Sep 2007, 00:32
- Location: down the rabbit hole
Re: Symphonie fantastique vs. Rite of Spring
Debussy > Stravinsky though.
It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man.
Diamond Dog wrote:...it quite clearly hit the target with you and your nonce...
...a multitude of innuendo and hearsay...
...I'm producing facts here...
-
- Posts: 16161
- Joined: 16 Jul 2003, 20:43
Re: Symphonie fantastique vs. Rite of Spring
Symphonie Fantastique gets bonus points for featuring an ophicleide or two.
- Count Machuki
- BCB Cup Champion 2013
- Posts: 39534
- Joined: 11 Jun 2005, 15:28
- Location: HAIL, ATLANTA!
Re: Symphonie fantastique vs. Rite of Spring
the bile flowing wrote:Debussy > Stravinsky though.
You what?!
I find Debussy gloopy.
Let U be the set of all united sets, K be the set of the kids and D be the set of things divided.
Then it follows that ∀ k ∈ K: K ∈ U ⇒ k ∉ D
Then it follows that ∀ k ∈ K: K ∈ U ⇒ k ∉ D
- Count Machuki
- BCB Cup Champion 2013
- Posts: 39534
- Joined: 11 Jun 2005, 15:28
- Location: HAIL, ATLANTA!
Re: Symphonie fantastique vs. Rite of Spring
The Modernist wrote:A is boring.
No way! What about the fourth bit?!
Convinced that his love is spurned, the artist poisons himself with opium. The dose of narcotic, while too weak to cause his death, plunges him into a heavy sleep accompanied by the strangest of visions. He dreams that he has killed his beloved, that he is condemned, led to the scaffold and is witnessing his own execution. The procession advances to the sound of a march that is sometimes sombre and wild, and sometimes brilliant and solemn, in which a dull sound of heavy footsteps follows without transition the loudest outbursts. At the end of the march, the first four bars of the idée fixe reappear like a final thought of love interrupted by the fatal blow.
Let U be the set of all united sets, K be the set of the kids and D be the set of things divided.
Then it follows that ∀ k ∈ K: K ∈ U ⇒ k ∉ D
Then it follows that ∀ k ∈ K: K ∈ U ⇒ k ∉ D
- clive gash
- wannabee enfant terrible
- Posts: 17219
- Joined: 29 Sep 2007, 00:32
- Location: down the rabbit hole
Re: Symphonie fantastique vs. Rite of Spring
You what?!
He overthrew the tyranny of the Austro German’s and put sound-for-sound’s-sake centre stage. The first Punk!
He overthrew the tyranny of the Austro German’s and put sound-for-sound’s-sake centre stage. The first Punk!
It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man.
Diamond Dog wrote:...it quite clearly hit the target with you and your nonce...
...a multitude of innuendo and hearsay...
...I'm producing facts here...
- Count Machuki
- BCB Cup Champion 2013
- Posts: 39534
- Joined: 11 Jun 2005, 15:28
- Location: HAIL, ATLANTA!
Re: Symphonie fantastique vs. Rite of Spring
the bile flowing wrote:You what?!
He overthrew the tyranny of the Austro German’s and put sound-for-sound’s-sake centre stage. The first Punk!
time for another listen, I guess.
So if I put faune in the poll we'd have a horse race?!
Let U be the set of all united sets, K be the set of the kids and D be the set of things divided.
Then it follows that ∀ k ∈ K: K ∈ U ⇒ k ∉ D
Then it follows that ∀ k ∈ K: K ∈ U ⇒ k ∉ D
- clive gash
- wannabee enfant terrible
- Posts: 17219
- Joined: 29 Sep 2007, 00:32
- Location: down the rabbit hole
Re: Symphonie fantastique vs. Rite of Spring
Sophie’s Choice.
It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man.
Diamond Dog wrote:...it quite clearly hit the target with you and your nonce...
...a multitude of innuendo and hearsay...
...I'm producing facts here...
- Hightea
- Posts: 4379
- Joined: 16 Apr 2015, 02:18
- Location: NY state
Re: Symphonie fantastique vs. Rite of Spring
A - Rite of Spring is overrated
by the way neither are that great
by the way neither are that great
-
- Posts: 16161
- Joined: 16 Jul 2003, 20:43
Re: Symphonie fantastique vs. Rite of Spring
No it isn’t and yes they are.
- Charlie O.
- Posts: 44883
- Joined: 21 Jul 2003, 19:53
- Location: In-A-Badda-La-Wadda, bay-beh
Re: Symphonie fantastique vs. Rite of Spring
I'm with the majority here.
I remember listening to a Bernstein lecture from the late sixties in which he tried to convince the "Young People" in the audience that "Symphonie Fantastique" was psychedelic. It was a fun lecture, of course, but... I couldn't really hear what he heard in that way. I think I've maybe subconsciously held that against the piece ever since, although that is hardly Berlioz' fault.
I remember listening to a Bernstein lecture from the late sixties in which he tried to convince the "Young People" in the audience that "Symphonie Fantastique" was psychedelic. It was a fun lecture, of course, but... I couldn't really hear what he heard in that way. I think I've maybe subconsciously held that against the piece ever since, although that is hardly Berlioz' fault.
- Fonz
- Posts: 4088
- Joined: 17 Feb 2014, 14:10
- Location: Nevermore
Re: Symphonie fantastique vs. Rite of Spring
I borrowed a score of ‘Rite...’ once.
Very interesting, the rhythmic stuff.
Never seen anything like it.
My introduction to it was the ‘Nocturne’ Banshees live stuff.
Still great.
Had a bassoon-playing pal. Told me the opening fee bars were a novel challenge for bassoonists.
Very interesting, the rhythmic stuff.
Never seen anything like it.
My introduction to it was the ‘Nocturne’ Banshees live stuff.
Still great.
Had a bassoon-playing pal. Told me the opening fee bars were a novel challenge for bassoonists.
Heyyyy!
"Fonz clearly has no fucks to give. I like the cut of his Cupicidal gib."
"Fonz clearly has no fucks to give. I like the cut of his Cupicidal gib."
- joels344
- Posts: 1304
- Joined: 17 Dec 2016, 17:37
- Location: Nashville, TN
- Contact:
- The Modernist
- 2018 BCB Cup Champ!
- Posts: 13843
- Joined: 13 Apr 2014, 20:42
Re: Symphonie fantastique vs. Rite of Spring
Count Machuki wrote:the bile flowing wrote:Debussy > Stravinsky though.
You what?!
I find Debussy gloopy.
Don't you be dissin' my man Debussy.
- Fonz
- Posts: 4088
- Joined: 17 Feb 2014, 14:10
- Location: Nevermore
Re: Symphonie fantastique vs. Rite of Spring
There's a Stravinsky tip for every mood-I picked up a Sony 20 disc set for little money a couple of years ago. pretty complete.
Debussy burned bright, then carked it. Less to choose from.
Debussy burned bright, then carked it. Less to choose from.
Heyyyy!
"Fonz clearly has no fucks to give. I like the cut of his Cupicidal gib."
"Fonz clearly has no fucks to give. I like the cut of his Cupicidal gib."
- pcqgod
- Posts: 19971
- Joined: 11 Apr 2010, 07:23
- Location: Ohio
Re: Symphonie fantastique vs. Rite of Spring
I don't care for either, terribly. Rites is slightly more palatable for me.
Where would rock 'n' roll be without feedback?