Dad Rock v/s Prog Rock The showdown

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Do you love dad rock , or Prog rock?

Yes , I love dad rock. I'll just get my cardigan. More aural anesthetic please.
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Yes, I love Prog rock, the music that keeps on giving and feeds my mind.
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Re: Dad Rock v/s Prog Rock The showdown

Postby yomptepi » 20 Sep 2018, 11:10

Ocean Colour Scene vs The Groundhogs.
Menswear vs Hawkwind
The Style Council vs Magma

Just no contest really.
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Re: Dad Rock v/s Prog Rock The showdown

Postby The Prof » 20 Sep 2018, 11:59

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Re: Dad Rock v/s Prog Rock The showdown

Postby Deebank » 20 Sep 2018, 12:57

The Prof wrote:So it's basically former Public School twats V former Council Estate oiks.


Apart from Genesis Mk1 are manny proggers public school boys?
Floyd were all grammar/state school. Jon Anderson seems pretty working class.

And Alex James is notoriously posh. And Kula Shakur - all massively posh dad rock (but also a bit proggy maybe).

Seems to be a bit of a not necessarily needed extra stick to beat them with. :?
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Re: Dad Rock v/s Prog Rock The showdown

Postby never/ever » 20 Sep 2018, 15:39

Deebank wrote:And Kula Shakur - all massively posh dad rock (but also a bit proggy maybe).


His brother 2Pac is pure street I hear....
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Re: Dad Rock v/s Prog Rock The showdown

Postby The Prof » 20 Sep 2018, 17:09

Deebank wrote:Apart from Genesis Mk1 are manny proggers public school boys?
Floyd were all grammar/state school. Jon Anderson seems pretty working class.


Whatevas..Yomp now agrees it's middle class tosh and that's what really matters.

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Re: Dad Rock v/s Prog Rock The showdown

Postby Spock! » 20 Sep 2018, 20:40

Deebank wrote:
The Prof wrote:
And Alex James is notoriously posh.



And yet he's not.

Born in Boscombe, much of which is very run down & drug infested. Went to a local state primary school (OK, a church school) and then onto the grammar. Know several people who knew him as teenager, seems to have been a very normal lad.

If I could afford it, I'd have a farm and make my own cheese.
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Re: Dad Rock v/s Prog Rock The showdown

Postby Cantankerous » 20 Sep 2018, 20:55

John aka Josh wrote:

If I could afford it, I'd have a farm


on the freeway.....





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Re: Dad Rock v/s Prog Rock The showdown

Postby Cantankerous » 28 Sep 2018, 10:55

WG Kaspar wrote:although to be fair G has sat on the prog table many a moon ago.


I am witness to that




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Croan wrote:One thing about the Yanks - they never seriously piddled about in
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Re: Dad Rock v/s Prog Rock The showdown

Postby The Modernist » 28 Sep 2018, 11:25

John aka Josh wrote:
Deebank wrote:
The Prof wrote:
And Alex James is notoriously posh.



And yet he's not.

Born in Boscombe, much of which is very run down & drug infested. Went to a local state primary school (OK, a church school) and then onto the grammar. Know several people who knew him as teenager, seems to have been a very normal lad.

If I could afford it, I'd have a farm and make my own cheese.


He's an arriviste! A sort of Ferry without the style.

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Re: Dad Rock v/s Prog Rock The showdown

Postby The Modernist » 28 Sep 2018, 11:27

C wrote:
WG Kaspar wrote:although to be fair G has sat on the prog table many a moon ago.


I am witness to that




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And very welcome it was too. :)

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Re: Dad Rock v/s Prog Rock The showdown

Postby Quaco » 28 Sep 2018, 16:42

I must confess I'm not clear on what Dad Rock is. It seems to mean the less inspired of the Britpop era (Cast, Ocean Colour Scene), but it also can mean other things. Are were using it to mean only British artists?

Prog was often bad, and I generally hate any attempts to do it in the modern day, but at its best, it was fantastic.
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Re: Dad Rock v/s Prog Rock The showdown

Postby Cantankerous » 28 Sep 2018, 17:14

Quaco wrote:
Prog was often bad.


I'd be interested in some examples please Jim-lad....





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Croan wrote:One thing about the Yanks - they never seriously piddled about in
anything as preposterously pointless as prog.

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Re: Dad Rock v/s Prog Rock The showdown

Postby Goat Boy » 28 Sep 2018, 17:16

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Re: Dad Rock v/s Prog Rock The showdown

Postby Quaco » 28 Sep 2018, 17:50

C wrote:
Quaco wrote:
Prog was often bad.


I'd be interested in some examples please Jim-lad....





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:D Well, I don't expect you will agree, but lots of Curved Air, Caravan, Camel (something about C's), Mike Oldfield, The Enid, and Nektar is crap. Cressida had a great sleeve or two but are indicative of how mediocre the genre could be. Stuff like Pendragon and Marillion I don't even know, but I'm sure I won't care for it. New stuff like Transatlantic and Porcupine Tree are supposed to be fabulous but are in fact awful. (Neil Jung is still trying to convert me.)
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Re: Dad Rock v/s Prog Rock The showdown

Postby yomptepi » 28 Sep 2018, 17:53

Quaco wrote: (Neil Jung is still trying to convert me.)


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Re: Dad Rock v/s Prog Rock The showdown

Postby naughty boy » 28 Sep 2018, 18:03

Quaco wrote:
C wrote:
Quaco wrote:
Prog was often bad.


I'd be interested in some examples please Jim-lad....





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:D Well, I don't expect you will agree, but lots of Curved Air, Caravan, Camel (something about C's)


Camel are especially bad, I think. I tried with some a couple of years ago and it was about as flavourless as it gets. Which is particularly criminal when we're talking about a genre which is known for its experimentation and ambition.
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Re: Dad Rock v/s Prog Rock The showdown

Postby Cantankerous » 28 Sep 2018, 18:07

Croan wrote:One thing about the Yanks - they never seriously piddled about in
anything as preposterously pointless as prog.

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Re: Dad Rock v/s Prog Rock The showdown

Postby Quaco » 28 Sep 2018, 18:23

TootyFrooty wrote:
Quaco wrote:
C wrote:
I'd be interested in some examples please Jim-lad....





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:D Well, I don't expect you will agree, but lots of Curved Air, Caravan, Camel (something about C's)


Camel are especially bad, I think. I tried with some a couple of years ago and it was about as flavourless as it gets. Which is particularly criminal when we're talking about a genre which is known for its experimentation and ambition.

Yeah, it's like prog easy listening. The lead guitar lines are vaguely thematic, like a drowsy, boring Shadows. It's professional!
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Re: Dad Rock v/s Prog Rock The showdown

Postby The Modernist » 28 Sep 2018, 19:05

I like Curved Air and Caravan.
Blimey! I never thought I'd be defending prog against Quaco!

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Re: Dad Rock v/s Prog Rock The showdown

Postby Hightea » 28 Sep 2018, 20:40

The Modernist wrote:I like Curved Air and Caravan.
Blimey! I never thought I'd be defending prog against Quaco!

:lol:

70's prog (at least what we call prog today) is all over the place. Too many bands to throw them all under the bus. I get why people dislike prog(not me of course) but surely there is something for just about anyone.

dad rock not sure we get the term? is this just britpop? Is this just the 90's? I could list a ton of albums as dad rock including several favorite albums by most BCB members. I consider tons of 70's rock bands dad rock.


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