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Re: Self-centered songs

Postby Loki » 13 Sep 2018, 03:52

Who says it's about him?
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Re: Self-centered songs

Postby Snarfyguy » 13 Sep 2018, 04:01

Loki wrote:Who says it's about him?

It's actually about ME.
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Re: Self-centered songs

Postby Loki » 13 Sep 2018, 04:46

Aha! Now I get it.
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Re: Self-centered songs

Postby Geezee » 13 Sep 2018, 09:25

I struggle with this one sometimes - it's beautifully written, and for sure there are different ways of interpreting it...but taken at face value some of these lyrics are quite jarring and fall into the "poor little girl won't manage without me" mantra.

For the Sake of the Song

Why does she sing
Her sad songs for me
I'm not the one
To tenderly bring
Her soft sympathy
I've just begun
To see my way clear
And it's plain
If I stop I will fall
I can lay down a tear
For her pain
Just a tear and that's all
What does she want me to do
She says that she knows
That moments are rare
I suppose that it's true
Then on she goes
To say I don't care
Aw, she knows that I do

[Chorus]
Maybe she just has to sing for the sake of the song
Who do I think that I am to decide that she's wrong

[Verse 2]
She'd like to think that I was cruel
But she knows that's a lie
For I would be
No more than a tool
If I allowed her to cry
All over me
My sorrow is real
Even though
I can't change my plans
If she could see how I feel
Then I know
That she'd understand

Does she actually think I'm to blame
Does she really believe
That some word of mine could relieve
All her pain
Can't she see that she grieves
Just because she's been blindly deceived
By her shame

[Chorus]

[Verse 3]
Nothin's what it seems
Maybe she'll start some day
To realize
If she abandons her dreams
Then all the words she can say
Are only lies
When will she see
That to gain
Is only to lose
All that she offers me
Are her chains
And I got to refuse

It's only to herself that she's lied
She likes to pretend
There's something that she should defend
With her pride
I don't intend
To stand here and be the friend
From whom she must hide
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Re: Self-centered songs

Postby slightbreeze » 13 Sep 2018, 11:43

From a third person perspective

WIVES AND LOVERS : Burt Bacharach

Hey, little girl, comb your hair, fix your make-up
Soon he will open the door
Don't think because there's a ring on your finger
You needn't try any more
For wives should always be lovers too
Run to his arms the moment he comes home to you
I'm warning you
Day after day, there are girls at the office
And the men will always be men
Don't stand him up with your hair still in curlers
You may not see him again
Wives should always be lovers too
Run to his arms the moment he comes home to you
He's almost here
Hey, little girl, better wear something pretty
Something you wear to go to the city
Dim all the lights, pour the wine, start the music
Time to get ready for love
It's time to get ready for love
Yes, it's time to get ready for love
It's time to get ready, kick your shoes off, baby

Great tune, wholly offensive lyrics

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Re: Self-centered songs

Postby Samoan » 13 Sep 2018, 12:56

slightbreeze wrote:From a third person perspective

WIVES AND LOVERS : Burt Bacharach
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Great tune, wholly offensive lyrics

I couldn't agree with you more.
That song irks me like you wouldn't believe.
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Re: Self-centered songs

Postby Samoan » 13 Sep 2018, 13:03

Sneelock wrote:Put another log on the fire
Cook me up some bacon and some beans
And go out to the car and change the tire
Wash my socks and sew my old blue jeans
Come on baby you can fill my pipe and then go fetch my slippers
And boil me up another pot of tea
Then put another log on the fire, babe
And come and tell me why you're leaving me

Now don't I let you wash the car on Sunday?
And don't I warn you when you're gettin' fat?
Ain't I a-gonna take you fishin' with me someday?
Well, a man can't love a woman more than that
Ain't I always nice to your kid sister?
Don't I take her drivin’ every night?
So sit here at my feet cause I like you when you're sweet
And you know it ain't feminine to fight
So put another log on the fire etc...

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Re: Self-centered songs

Postby George P. Smackers » 13 Sep 2018, 13:04

"Wives and Lovers" is such a relic, it doesn't bother me--almost of historical-anthropological interest, like Aztec human sacrifice. Sexism has a whole new bag of tricks since then.

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Re: Self-centered songs

Postby Samoan » 13 Sep 2018, 14:08

George P. Smackers wrote:"Wives and Lovers" is such a relic, it doesn't bother me--almost of historical-anthropological interest, like Aztec human sacrifice. Sexism has a whole new bag of tricks since then.

You're a man, it wouldn't bother you.

One could indeed say it's of it's time and yet only a while back a friend of a friend on Facebook wrote that her husband had said (I'm paraphrasing) "Why don't you wear something sexier at home ?" which unpleasantly surprised me.

There are a number of tricks in play.
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Re: Self-centered songs

Postby Hugh » 13 Sep 2018, 18:02

slightbreeze wrote:From a third person perspective

WIVES AND LOVERS : Burt Bacharach

Hey, little girl, comb your hair, fix your make-up
Soon he will open the door
Don't think because there's a ring on your finger
You needn't try any more
For wives should always be lovers too
Run to his arms the moment he comes home to you
I'm warning you
Day after day, there are girls at the office
And the men will always be men
Don't stand him up with your hair still in curlers
You may not see him again
Wives should always be lovers too
Run to his arms the moment he comes home to you
He's almost here
Hey, little girl, better wear something pretty
Something you wear to go to the city
Dim all the lights, pour the wine, start the music
Time to get ready for love
It's time to get ready for love
Yes, it's time to get ready for love
It's time to get ready, kick your shoes off, baby

Great tune, wholly offensive lyrics



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Re: Self-centered songs

Postby Quaco » 13 Sep 2018, 19:07

Early Trevor Rabin music. A few of his songs have an ego vibe to them ("I Sleep Alone" "Everybody's Cheating"). This seems to be another she's-nothing-without-me song, with the added kick that she dies in the end.

Rabbitt - "Baby's Leaving"

Baby says she's leaving but I know she never will
'Cause there is nowhere in the world where she can go to without me
It's just our love that keeps her on

When rainbows lift and thunder falls, she cuddles up to me just like a ball
And says baby help me out through this darkness
It's just my love that keeps her strong

And when we fight, it don't feel right
'Cause I love you too much baby
Babyyyy

But now I'm left with memories of true love pure sincerities
I know that where she's gone I cannot go, she's gone
It's just her thought that keeps me on


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Re: Self-centered songs

Postby Muskrat » 13 Sep 2018, 19:29

The Modernist wrote:I heard a rap song that seemed very self-centred. He talked about himself a lot and claimed all the bitches loved him too. But I forget the name right now.

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Re: Self-centered songs

Postby Muskrat » 13 Sep 2018, 19:31

Sneelock wrote:Put another log on the fire
Cook me up some bacon and some beans
And go out to the car and change the tire
Wash my socks and sew my old blue jeans
Come on baby you can fill my pipe and then go fetch my slippers
And boil me up another pot of tea
Then put another log on the fire, babe
And come and tell me why you're leaving me

Now don't I let you wash the car on Sunday?
And don't I warn you when you're gettin' fat?
Ain't I a-gonna take you fishin' with me someday?
Well, a man can't love a woman more than that
Ain't I always nice to your kid sister?
Don't I take her drivin’ every night?
So sit here at my feet cause I like you when you're sweet
And you know it ain't feminine to fight
So put another log on the fire etc...


You are aware that the song (by Shel Silverstein) is intended to be a joke, right?
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Re: Self-centered songs

Postby Sneelock » 13 Sep 2018, 19:38

I say it still counts! I love it so much. I laugh like hell just thinking about it.
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Re: Self-centered songs

Postby Bent Fabric » 13 Sep 2018, 23:59

Sneelock wrote:I say it still counts! I love it so much. I laugh like hell just thinking about it.


My youngest used to sing it when he was 5 or 6 (he'd learnt it from the Muppets) and I can barely reconstruct my own confused reaction to a squeaky little voice singing "Go out to the car and change the tire."

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Re: Self-centered songs

Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 14 Sep 2018, 08:17

Geezee wrote:I struggle with this one sometimes - it's beautifully written, and for sure there are different ways of interpreting it...but taken at face value some of these lyrics are quite jarring and fall into the "poor little girl won't manage without me" mantra.


Not how I read these at all. I don’t see him saying that she won’t make it alone. I see him saying that he simply has nothing to offer.
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