Darkness_Fish wrote:Seriously though, I'm not being antagonistic or awkward, I genuinely want to hear something special from Phil, but that Frida track seems like fairly bog-standard drumming to me. "The Carpet Crawlers" is better, but it still wouldn't exactly knock me sideways. I'm looking for jaw-dropping greatness here, and I'm not encountering the spectacular. Compared to, say, "Lullabye Letter" for which for a similar time/genre, it's not in the same league, imo.
I notice they included North Star from Fripp's Exposure
. I like the drumming on that, but it's more breezy than "astounding."
As time goes on, I'm less impressed with showy playing. Just the opposite, actually - the more someone's playing can be subsumed in the service of the music, the more I like it. Put it this way: as simple as the drumming on North Star sounds
, a drummer would need to have much more technique, then have the discipline (!!!) to reign it in, to pull it off. Someone who can only play in a more rudimentary way couldn't do this as well. It's not just about how much you flash you put into your tom-tom rolls or how many cymbals you can hit or whatever, it's how much you can make the song swing, how much room you leave for everything else, stuff like that. I think he plays well with others really good on that one, because
he's not doing anything to draw attention to himself. These two things (obvious displays of technique and sensitivity to the groove) are not mutually exclusive, by the way, but that much should be obvious.
I looked up to see what other songs on Exposure
feature Collins on drums, and the only other one is Disengage. It's more heavy, but again, probably nothing that would amaze you. At any rate, the most impressive drumming on that album is done by Narada Michael Walden, and those are showcases for the drummer to let loose, unlike the two with Collins. So that's one way to look at it, for whatever that's worth.