Do You Ever Get Tired Of Being a Miserable Bastard?

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Do You Ever Get Tired Of Being a Miserable Bastard?

Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 03 Jul 2018, 06:05

So...there I was in the checkout line of the grocery store. When over the store sound system came the dreaded Billy Joel.

“Friday night I crashed your party
Saturday I said I’m sorry...”


I’d love to report that it just sounded great. But in truth...it just sounded okay. Not bad. Not great. But okay. I found myself absently singing along.

It’s a dumb song. “You may be right. I might be crazy. But it just might be a looonatic you’re looking for...” It’s like having to spend time around someone dull who gets all excited about calling themselves ‘crazy’ - as some kind of claim towards having a discernible personality. A bit embarrassing.

But on the other hand...it sounded...okay. It had hooks. The guitars were sort of driving. Joel’s rawk voice was sort of acceptable. It was a nice day. People were buying groceries and smiling and going about their day, and I caught myself dully kind of enjoying a song that I fully KNOW to be bogus.

And it was okay. It was fine. There was nobody to explain myself to. Who would possibly care? Can you imagine making the poor cashier uncomfortable while you explain to her that you aren’t a Billy Joel fan? That you know who Emmitt Rhodes is and own records by Sonny Rollins and Johnny “Guitar” Watson - and that you were only humming along with Joel ironically (but you ARE willing to confer respectability on a few Joel songs, which you will now reveal in reverse order of quality)?

Do you ever get exhausted by this kind of shit? Do you ever think that keeping up high standards is just a waste of fucking energy?
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Postby trans-chigley express » 03 Jul 2018, 06:13

Davey the Fat Boy wrote: Can you imagine making the poor cashier uncomfortable while you explain to her that you aren’t a Billy Joel fan? That you know who Emmitt Rhodes is and own records by Sonny Rollins and Johnny “Guitar” Watson - and that you were only humming along with Joel ironically (but you ARE willing to confer respectability on a few Joel songs, which you will now reveal in reverse order of quality)?

:lol: :lol:

I got exhausted by this shit years ago. I think I've largely lost my musical snobbery, except perhaps when someone tries to argue me that Kiss are superior to The Beatles, which has happened.

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Postby Bent Fabric » 03 Jul 2018, 12:08

The amount of time I spend driving has absolutely regularly forced my hand on this sort of thing. These semi-epiphanies, musical moments that I wouldn't necessarily invite into my home, but...when they hit, they hit. It's random and unsustainable, and I go back to hating most things quickly enough, but...yeah, a rigid, fixed set of musical commandments hardly seems worth carrying around at all times. My young kids are constantly re-positioning their own stances on things (it's what they do at that age), and...you never want to see a grown person trying to plant some flag of "What I Believe!". You know what you think - and some amount of wiggle room only confers that you are, in fact, listening...engaged in some way.

I had it in my head yesterday to start a thread on the sheer majesty of Barbra Streisand's Barry Gibb-helmed Guilty (1980) - in essence, the last great Bee Gees record. The moment passed, as it would, but...it was a hell of a moment! Analogous to maybe having a McDonald's meal once every couple of years.

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Postby Goat Boy » 03 Jul 2018, 12:33

Most of my ire is internal these days but I'm still opinionated in the right circumstances but the explosion point is certainly not what it once was. That's just age though. If I look back and think of moments when I most definitely have been The Miserable Bastard I wince a little.

I will still leave a pub if the music is shit. And I draw the line at Billy Bragg in supermarkets.
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Postby Darkness_Fish » 03 Jul 2018, 12:34

Goat Boy wrote:And I draw the line at Billy Bragg in supermarkets.

Isn't he allowed to be a champagne socialist, so long as he gets it from Aldi?
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Postby The Beatles » 03 Jul 2018, 12:35

Sometimes I'll kind of fall in to the enthusiasm of a group I'm with, especially if I like them. You know, 'we saw Mamma Mia last night and it was BRILLIANT!' - what would be the point of grunting your disapproval?

But it's not only that - sometimes you actually feel the ground shifting a little bit under you! your opinion budges a little just because you're in the room with this positive chorus. Which might mean that opinions - even the ones that come across as hard-wired, inflexible - are actually based on very little.
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Postby The Beatles » 03 Jul 2018, 12:43

Goat Boy wrote:And I draw the line at Billy Bragg in supermarkets.


I'd hand in my loyalty card if I heard so much as one painful note.

but if Bragg himself were in the supermarket - oh wot a dream! we could shove him in the freezer and call out the capitalist management to trample all over him.
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Postby Rayge » 03 Jul 2018, 12:45

ORORORO wrote:Which might mean that opinions - even the ones that come across as hard-wired, inflexible - are actually based on very little.

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Postby Bent Fabric » 03 Jul 2018, 12:54

Goat Boy wrote:I will still leave a pub if the music is shit.


For sure. As an environmental element, music is inescapably major. It drives me crazy that there are people who don't have this reaction. Like...you can tune it out? How?

We have a downstairs neighbor with whom I briefly shared a morning "kids to school carpool". Within a couple of days it became painfully apparent that there was always going to be music playing in her car and that it all kind of sucked - I'm sure its a great gift to be able to just hear it all as "welcome (or at least non-repellant) ambiance", but...I'm just not that zen. Within days I'd found an excuse to go back to bringing my own kids to school.

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Postby sneelock » 03 Jul 2018, 17:10

One of the great things about getting old is that shit I used to hate now reminds of of the past. I was younger in the past. THEREFORE, stuff I used to hate isn't so bad. the list of things I used to hate that gives me pleasure now grows daily. I'll still sneer at Eagles but you might catch me singing along - us old guys are stubborn bastards.

I never really cared for U2. One day, I was in an exceptional good mood. I went strutting into the frozen section of my local supermarket and "Even better than the real thing" started playing in the aisles. well, who could have guessed? when I'm laying on my death bed and my life is flashing before my eyes this moment will be one of the greatest moments of my life. the planets were lined up or something. something I'd always been indifferent too suddenly played a major part in a magical moment in my life. yeah, I'm a stubborn bastard but I'll take all the magic I can get.
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Postby pig bodine » 03 Jul 2018, 17:25

I’m worse than I ever was, but I chalk it up to clinical depression and autism. I don’t tell people their music sucks unless I’m asked for my opinion. There was a Brad Paisley show in town last week and as I and my family’s drove by the huge crowd of drunk 20-something’s in their pickups with American flags hanging from poles in the back and their Trump/Pence bumper stickers backed up for a mile on Route 690, it set me into a blind rage, more from seeing the huge amount of young Trumplings than the music, but that music represents Trump, racism and fascism to me and that kids 30 years younger than me think that way, which means I’m spending the rest of my life in this type of atmosphere. It wasn’t a pleasant car trip and I ended up apologizing for my outburst and mood when we got home.

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Postby sloopjohnc » 03 Jul 2018, 18:46

This makes me wonder when I (and we) became musical snobs.

I was raised on AM radio, and while I enjoyed the occasional Ray Stevens song, I drew the line at Jim Stafford, and ultimately, Rick Dees.

I would say I started becoming a music snob the first couple years of high school when I found FM radio rock. I kinda turned my nose at disco. By senior year, my friends and I controlled the music played in our high school courtyard at lunch. Looking back, people probably got pretty tired by our limited music tastes, but we were out to convert. I liked punk and early hip hop but kept it to myself and one or two friends. I'd never had admitted that I was going up to the Mabuhay Gardens to see the DKs to my wider circle of friends. I might have suggested I liked something other than what they normally liked to gauge acceptance or rejection, but very carefully.

It was only in my late, late teens and 20s that I realized there was really fun music out there and didn't care who knew it. As I got older, I actually became less snobby and my tastes became more liberal and open minded.

For our 25th year reunion, I was the guy picked to provide music for the event and my tastes were much more catholic at 43 than they were at 16.

Looking back, I wish I hadn't been so much a snob at 16 and played more of the music in the courtyard that I did for the reunion.

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Postby bobzilla77 » 03 Jul 2018, 19:03

I drew the line at Jim Stafford,


You don't like "Spiders and Snakes?"

:?

I was at a Darkness concert earlier this year, waiting for them to come on, and the DJ was playing all kinds of cheesy 80s hits. Which, hey, that was my high school years, I can dig it. But at one point I actually caught myself head-bobbing to the bass line of a Loverboy song and I felt REALLY conflicted about it. Like, sure I can go with the flow, but this is just several steps too far. I considered qutting drinking right there, and right then. But finally I looked around to make sure no one I knew was around, and sang along - "I gotta do it my way, or NO WAY AT AAAALLLLL!"

But it didn't feel like surrendering to the moment, it felt like surrendering to crap. I got no joy, no release, no catharsis. Just the feeling of having ticked the box and participated in the mandatory audience-participation ritual.

And suddenly the bass line stopped sounding good to me, and I looked around at the people boogying to Loverboy, as I had been doing moments earlier, and felt terrible for them. And I started to pray, "Please let the Darkness come on now, right now, save us from this fucking Loverboy song." And eventually they did, and they were very good.
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Postby sloopjohnc » 03 Jul 2018, 19:09

bobzilla77 wrote:
I drew the line at Jim Stafford,


You don't like "Spiders and Snakes?"

:?

I was at a Darkness concert earlier this year, waiting for them to come on, and the DJ was playing all kinds of cheesy 80s hits. Which, hey, that was my high school years, I can dig it. But at one point I actually caught myself head-bobbing to the bass line of a Loverboy song and I felt REALLY conflicted about it.


Turn Me Loose?

Spiders and Snakes was tolerable, I guess.

For one or two plays. . .

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Postby Charlie O. » 03 Jul 2018, 19:49

bobzilla77 wrote:
I drew the line at Jim Stafford,


You don't like "Spiders and Snakes?"

:?

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Postby toomanyhatz » 03 Jul 2018, 20:21

I work at a music company. I often despair at the fact that (for instance) even people my age here have no fucking clue who Gene Clark is.

I just got an e-mail from my boss (who I like a lot, and who is my age or older) asking us to try to figure out what is "the summer song of 2018." God, it's taking all my strength to not answer "who cares?" or "Hot Fun in the Summertime" by Sly. In instances like this I figure it's best to just keep quiet.

I suppose the reverse of this is true too - there are people despairing that I work at a music company and yet have no clue what "summer singles" we're trying to promote. And my age is no excuse. I work at a music company, ffs! :P

I can always gripe here where it's more welcome (borderline demanded, in fact).
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Postby Charlie O. » 03 Jul 2018, 20:42

toomanyhatz wrote:I work at a music company. I often despair at the fact that (for instance) even people my age here have no fucking clue who Gene Clark is.

If it makes you feel any better, the same would likely have been true fifty years ago.
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Postby sloopjohnc » 03 Jul 2018, 21:18

toomanyhatz wrote:I work at a music company. I often despair at the fact that (for instance) even people my age here have no fucking clue who Gene Clark is.

I just got an e-mail from my boss (who I like a lot, and who is my age or older) asking us to try to figure out what is "the summer song of 2018." God, it's taking all my strength to not answer "who cares?" or "Hot Fun in the Summertime" by Sly. In instances like this I figure it's best to just keep quiet.


https://www.billboard.com/charts/summer-songs

My vote would be Drake's Nice for What or Bebe Rexha's Meant to Be, crossover hit with Florida Georgia Line.

Maybe Cardi B.


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Postby pcqgod » 03 Jul 2018, 21:42

I haven't been snobby about pop music since, like, ever.
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Postby Phenomenal Cat » 03 Jul 2018, 21:50

ORORORO wrote:Which might mean that opinions - even the ones that come across as hard-wired, inflexible - are actually based on very little.


sloopjohnc wrote: As I got older, I actually became less snobby and my tastes became more liberal and open minded.


Now that I am closer to being 50 years old than 40, the additional disposable income and less "peers" to actually observe my listening habits has made me a much happier listener. It helps to have a kid, who is not only hearing just about everything "for the first time", but has already decided that he is a music snob and everyone else is just "being trendy". That we can bond over ELO or even REO ("Time For Me To Fly" can be magic) is nothing short of a miracle. He just doesn't understand why I get so much out of Fairport Convention records on a Sunday morning.

But I will not accept Bon Jovi as "classic rock". Fuck that.
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