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Re: new McCartney

Postby toomanyhatz » 17 Sep 2018, 16:51

BOXO wrote:I'm sure it helped.

I'm enjoying the album. Bits of it, anyway. The lyrics are almost always terrible. Sometimes that doesn't matter, sometimes it does. They're mostly unignorable.


Yep. I know I"m more of a 'lyrics guy' than most here, but it's a fatal flaw of the album - and is honestly stopping me from fully embracing its musical charms, which are, frankly, being graded on a curve due to his age and diminished vocal skills anyway.

I mean, still good for him, but I don't think I need to own it and find I'm already losing interest in listening to it.
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Re: new McCartney

Postby Diamond Dog » 17 Sep 2018, 16:54

toomanyhatz wrote:
Yep. I know I"m more of a 'lyrics guy' than most here, but it's a fatal flaw of the album - and is honestly stopping me from fully embracing its musical charms, which are, frankly, being graded on a curve due to his age and diminished vocal skills anyway.

I mean, still good for him, but I don't think I need to own it and find I'm already losing interest in listening to it.


That's perfect. Exactly where I was over the weekend in my head - I actually got to the checkout stage and then thought "In a fortnights time, am I still going to be playing it"?

I decided I wouldn't. So, no, I won't be buying it for exactly the reasons you state Hatz.
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Re: new McCartney

Postby ChrisChopping » 17 Sep 2018, 21:41

The more I listen to it the more I love Despite Repeated Warnings. It manages to recall both Wings and The Beatles in pleasing ways and I actually like the lyrics on this one. I think it sustains it’s metaphor well throughout out and in fact, perhaps because it employs metaphor rather than Lennonesque sloganeering, it probably the best political song he’s ever done...

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Re: new McCartney

Postby toomanyhatz » 19 Sep 2018, 19:25

OK, trivia contest at my work with a selection of prizes - I won and took the ES CD as my prize. Good enough to own, but not to pay for. :D

Took it over the new Wilko Johnson, but I can probably pick that later since very, very few people at my work (a record company, ffs!) have a clue who he is.
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Re: new McCartney

Postby toomanyhatz » 25 Sep 2018, 22:00

..and it's basically his Sgt. Pepper - in that everybody's bestowing claims of greatness on it when in reality it's about his 5th best record of the last 20 years. :D

That said, this is pretty great - the song on the record I buy into most thoroughly. But even it suffers a bit for its lyrical laziness. But musically, one of his best recent songs (damning with faint praise, etc...):

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Re: new McCartney

Postby SUMPTUOUS SI » 25 Sep 2018, 22:06

I can't help feeling we're welcoming him and his style of music more than we have for a long time - not sure why this is. We might value him even more than we did ten or twenty years ago.

I mean, I feel it, I'm keen for him to put something great out. Whereas in the past, it was 'oh, another fucking McCartney record! why does he bother?'
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Re: new McCartney

Postby toomanyhatz » 25 Sep 2018, 22:49

What I find mysterious about this is that I really think his last 3 or 4 records are all better than this, not counting odd side projects and that classical shit. Maybe it really is just that he's starting to be REALLY old, and we're just delighted he's still here. Maybe him being inspired even part time is enough for us. We didn't used to be this generous with his average stuff.
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Re: new McCartney

Postby Quaco » 26 Sep 2018, 18:59

Yeah, people are also being generous about his interviews, which are touted as being more honest or revealing, when they're still only 10% new material. Which is better than before, I guess. Also, he has better hair now, allowing himself to be grey and maybe a bit distinguished.
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Re: new McCartney

Postby NowhereMan » 26 Sep 2018, 19:41

Maybe ageing has helped him reign in some of the big headed/cockiness that rubs people the wrong way. He's still big on the idea of having hits obviously, but he doesn't seem quite as uptight as he has done in the past. He's somehow became weirdly cooler as an elderly man than at any time in the last 35 years.

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Re: new McCartney

Postby Sneelock » 26 Sep 2018, 20:11

having said all that...
I'm perfectly willing to nod in agreement that there's much nice to be said.
he seems engaged. it's got a good sound. it sounds well crafted. I agree with all that.

BUT (and it's a big butt)
I just don't think very much of the tunes. I hear good tracks but I don't hear good tunes. I know it's not fair to compare these tunes to OTHER tunes but I guess I'm just not a very fair guy.

this would be a stunning piece of work if it had better tunes - hell, even more C grade McCartney tunes.
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Re: new McCartney

Postby SUMPTUOUS SI » 01 Oct 2018, 15:53

He was on 60 Minutes last night - the full video should be up on youtube soonish.

Meanwhile here's a taster:

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Re: new McCartney

Postby Quaco » 01 Oct 2018, 16:02

TootyFrooty wrote:He was on 60 Minutes last night - the full video should be up on youtube soonish.

Meanwhile here's a taster:


I like seeing musicians in their workspaces. That was pretty cool.

No one who ever interviews McCartney is normal. They're all either beautiful, stars themselves, star-struck, friends of his, or special in some way. I can't exactly describe it, but it's like he picks them, and it's always softball pretending to be hardball.
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Re: new McCartney

Postby SUMPTUOUS SI » 01 Oct 2018, 16:57

You're constantly - both sides - thinking of how it's coming across, as well as 'just' doing the job of asking/answering the questions.

This woman seems pretty relaxed but you just know she can't wait to tell her kids/mam/friends about the experience...

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Re: new McCartney

Postby The Modernist » 01 Oct 2018, 17:00

The only person I know that's met him said he was really weird, disconcertingly so. I don't know what he did to create that impression on her, I wish I'd pressed her on it now.

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Re: new McCartney

Postby Quaco » 01 Oct 2018, 17:08

TootyFrooty wrote:You're constantly - both sides - thinking of how it's coming across, as well as 'just' doing the job of asking/answering the questions.

This woman seems pretty relaxed but you just know she can't wait to tell her kids/mam/friends about the experience...


Yeah, she can barely contain herself. He must be a god or something, for people to react this way. It's like Krishna coming down and you can't stop from smiling in his presence.
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Re: new McCartney

Postby Charlie O. » 03 Oct 2018, 01:30

Open question: If you were going to interview McCartney, what are some questions you'd like to ask him?
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Re: new McCartney

Postby Diamond Dog » 03 Oct 2018, 10:26

I'd love to see him interviewed by someone like Quaco - a musician who loves details and would ask challenging technical questions about all stages of the song writing/recording process. If Jimmy could stop drooling whilst doing so, we m,ay actually get to find some new things because, quite seriously, I'm sure there still is stuff he's completely forgotten that could be dredged up by the right person.

Not sure how he'd respond to something like "But why are your basslines on John & George's material seemingly always so much more intricate than on your own?" and just leave it there to hang....
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