James Brown or Jimi Hendrix?

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Brown or Hendrix

a) James
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b) Jimi.
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James Brown or Jimi Hendrix?

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The Sex Machine or the Voodoo Chile?

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Re: James Brown or Jimi Hendrix?

Postby Jeemo » 13 Jun 2018, 14:37

Jimi by a thread
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Re: James Brown or Jimi Hendrix?

Postby SUMPTUOUS SI » 13 Jun 2018, 14:40

I really have to think about this. They're both phenomenal - incredible artists who did/gave so much.
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Re: James Brown or Jimi Hendrix?

Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 13 Jun 2018, 14:51

Yeah. This feels a bit like the Miles vs. Coltrane thread. Brown and Miles seem similar as people, and both can be said to have pioneered entire genres. Meanwhile Hendrix is reminiscent of Coltrane in his “star that shined brilliantly for short time arc.”

Speaking only on a “how much it floats my boat” level...I’ll go with Brown by an almost imperceptible distance.
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Re: James Brown or Jimi Hendrix?

Postby wannabee enfant terrible » 13 Jun 2018, 15:06

For the In The Jungle Groove sync listen alone it’s gotta be Jimi.
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Re: James Brown or Jimi Hendrix?

Postby wannabee enfant terrible » 13 Jun 2018, 15:29

I don’t see any similarity in them as people, Brown was uptight and controlling, Jimi laid back, a vessel for his muse. They both birthed terrible genres (funk and metal, gee if only someone could fuse them) so they’re equally culpable for the musical destruction they left behind.
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Re: James Brown or Jimi Hendrix?

Postby Matt Wilson » 13 Jun 2018, 15:48

Jimi didn't create metal.
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Re: James Brown or Jimi Hendrix?

Postby Sneelock » 13 Jun 2018, 16:24

no but he has a lot of do with the guitar fetish that informs it to this day.

I tried to vote Jimi but my browser won't do it. maybe this is a sign. I absolutely adore James Brown but Jimi hits me in a special place.
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Re: James Brown or Jimi Hendrix?

Postby sloopjohnc » 13 Jun 2018, 16:31

James Brown. He pretty much invented a genre of music. He's a notch below Louis Armstrong and some early jazz and blues guys in my book.

Jimi was a revolutionary guitarist, and who knows what he could've done with more time, but I don't know if he holds a candle to Brown.

People on here may not like it, but hip hop is the DIY extension of funk, and by far the most popular musical genre on the planet, worldwide.

Brown can take partial credit for that.

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Re: James Brown or Jimi Hendrix?

Postby sloopjohnc » 13 Jun 2018, 16:31

Matt Wilson wrote:Jimi didn't create metal.


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Re: James Brown or Jimi Hendrix?

Postby Diamond Dog » 13 Jun 2018, 16:35

sloopjohnc wrote:People on here may not like it, but hip hop is the DIY extension of funk, and by far the most popular musical genre on the planet, worldwide.


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Re: James Brown or Jimi Hendrix?

Postby Diamond Dog » 13 Jun 2018, 16:39

Matt Wilson wrote:Jimi didn't create metal.


sneelock wrote:no but he has a lot of do with the guitar fetish that informs it to this day.


That others chose to imitate it appallingly isn't really something for which to deduct marks from Jimi.
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Re: James Brown or Jimi Hendrix?

Postby Matt Wilson » 13 Jun 2018, 17:33

Metal guitarists don't really try to emulate Jimi either.
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Re: James Brown or Jimi Hendrix?

Postby Goat Boy » 13 Jun 2018, 17:34

I think the power trio was important in the development of metal but I’d maybe finger Creams influence more than Hendrix’s. That move towards something heavier and more dangerous, sans rhythm guitar with an emphasis on The Riff was critical as Rock was born and music became louder and less subtle. Creams bludgeoning bombast on stage may be more virtuosic than yer average metal band but they share something in intent I think that lesser musicians could replicate in other ways: a desire to overwhelm and assault.

The riff on Purple Haze might be proto metal or some shit according to, I dunno, Pitchfork but there’s a fluidity and rhythm there immediately after the opening riff that beautifully elevates it. It shakes, it shimmies and those lascivious “oohs” and “ahhs” drip with seductive power, climaxing with that pretty self-explanatory, “YEAH!”. Sex in metal has always been cartoonish. With Hendrix it never was.

There may be elements there, hints, pointers of what was to come and certainly the wah wah frenzy of somebody like Kirk Hammett surely has its roots in Hendrix but he was a shapeshifter and far too exploratory and alchemical to give birth to something like metal.
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Re: James Brown or Jimi Hendrix?

Postby Matt Wilson » 13 Jun 2018, 17:36

Not to mention Hendrix was far too blues-based for metal - which eschews that type of playing.
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Re: James Brown or Jimi Hendrix?

Postby Goat Boy » 13 Jun 2018, 17:38

Plus cosmic, consciousness raising
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Re: James Brown or Jimi Hendrix?

Postby Sneelock » 13 Jun 2018, 17:39

Matt Wilson wrote:Metal guitarists don't really try to emulate Jimi either.


They don’t duck walk either but they show off with guitars.
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Re: James Brown or Jimi Hendrix?

Postby wannabee enfant terrible » 13 Jun 2018, 17:55

Hendrix’s followers didn’t ape him by creating multi-layered studio tapestries, they played guitar loudly through Marshalls, that’s what they dug doing. Perhaps metal is the wrong label due to the lack of blues influences, hard rock will do.

It’s easy to pick the differences between Hendrix and Cream from this distance, I’m not too sure that there was much of a distinction in those days, it was loud guitar music (Clapton wanted out of that and Jimi was getting further and further away from it post-Chandler).
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Re: James Brown or Jimi Hendrix?

Postby sloopjohnc » 13 Jun 2018, 18:01

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sloopjohnc wrote:People on here may not like it, but hip hop is the DIY extension of funk, and by far the most popular musical genre on the planet, worldwide.


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Re: James Brown or Jimi Hendrix?

Postby Sneelock » 13 Jun 2018, 18:22

T.Rexes had texting. That’s how their arms got all stubby.
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