20 years on - how does this record stand up?

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I think it's....

a classic
4
12%
pretty good
10
30%
okay
2
6%
overrated
9
27%
terrible
8
24%
 
Total votes: 33

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Re: 20 years on - how does this record stand up?

Postby pig bodine » 10 Jun 2018, 16:30

I always felt that while rock had been on life support for many years, it finally gave up the ghost in 1997.

I liked indie rock when you could trace its roots to the Velvet Underground and the Stooges. By the mid 90’s, it became more quirky and whimsical and by default, shitty.

The NMT singer is a braying jackass who sounds like Wild Man Fischer without the charm.

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Re: 20 years on - how does this record stand up?

Postby Eddie Shah environment » 10 Jun 2018, 16:47

pig bodine wrote:I always felt that while rock had been on life support for many years, it finally gave up the ghost in 1997.

I liked indie rock when you could trace its roots to the Velvet Underground and the Stooges. By the mid 90’s, it became more quirky and whimsical and by default, shitty.

The NMT singer is a braying jackass who sounds like Wild Man Fischer without the charm.



I agree with every single word.
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Re: 20 years on - how does this record stand up?

Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 10 Jun 2018, 17:23

It’s an interesting thought. I don’t really have any thoughts about this album. It came out during the hardest period of my life...so I missed a few years musically. But the pig is right...when I came back, indie music was different (and I didn’t really have a sense of how or why it had changed).

What musical influences supplanted the VU and Stooges with indie musicians? Where exactly does the current state of it emanate from?
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Re: 20 years on - how does this record stand up?

Postby Eddie Shah environment » 10 Jun 2018, 17:36

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Re: 20 years on - how does this record stand up?

Postby jimboo » 10 Jun 2018, 17:48

Whine rock - music for sneaker adverts , the opening soundtrack to a really bad indie movie about misunderstood teens growing up in hicksville and wanting to be Tom Petty, but the town is more concerned about the corn harvest. It is , was and will always be as annoying as rock gets.
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Re: 20 years on - how does this record stand up?

Postby PENK » 10 Jun 2018, 19:22

Davey the Fat Boy wrote:What musical influences supplanted the VU and Stooges with indie musicians?


Other indie musicians. At some point they stopped looking to the past and looked only to their contemporaries.

Moving on is good, and necessary, but they burnt their bridges.
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Re: 20 years on - how does this record stand up?

Postby Jumper K » 10 Jun 2018, 22:01

Execerable rubbish.

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Re: 20 years on - how does this record stand up?

Postby Pansy Puff » 10 Jun 2018, 22:25

Jumper K wrote:Execerable rubbish.

You say that like it's a bad thing.





(I'll let Rayge correct your spelling)
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Re: 20 years on - how does this record stand up?

Postby Jumper K » 11 Jun 2018, 19:47

Pansy Puff wrote:
Jumper K wrote:Execerable rubbish.

You say that like it's a bad thing.





(I'll let Rayge correct your spelling)

Fuck you spelling Nazi. That correct enough for ya?

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Re: 20 years on - how does this record stand up?

Postby Pansy Puff » 11 Jun 2018, 20:21

Jumper K wrote:
Pansy Puff wrote:
Jumper K wrote:Execerable rubbish.

You say that like it's a bad thing.





(I'll let Rayge correct your spelling)

Fuck you spelling Nazi. That correct enough for ya?

Hey, don't blame me. Rayge is the spelling nazi. I'm just a spelling black shirt.
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Re: 20 years on - how does this record stand up?

Postby Jumper K » 11 Jun 2018, 20:26

Pansy Puff wrote:
Jumper K wrote:
Pansy Puff wrote:You say that like it's a bad thing.





(I'll let Rayge correct your spelling)

Fuck you spelling Nazi. That correct enough for ya?

Hey, don't blame me. Rayge is the spelling nazi. I'm just a spelling black shirt.

I blame everyone. Regardless. You are all responsible.

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Re: 20 years on - how does this record stand up?

Postby sloopjohnc » 11 Jun 2018, 21:38

Diamond Dog wrote:That is my all time hated cover. I don't know why but it makes me angry just looking at it.


I think you mentioned the same thing when I posted it on Facebook's Now Playing page.

I like the album, a lot.

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Re: 20 years on - how does this record stand up?

Postby Wally Bingbang » 11 Jun 2018, 21:54

I hate it so much that I've never even listened to it.
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Re: 20 years on - how does this record stand up?

Postby The Red Heifer » 11 Jun 2018, 22:10

Harvey K-Tel wrote:I hate it so much that I've never even listened to it.


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Re: 20 years on - how does this record stand up?

Postby bobzilla77 » 15 Jun 2018, 00:58

It was kind of interesting in its time, I would say. That was before we had heard what NPR indie music was to become. It wasn't trendy in 1998.

Like the Grateful Dead I can respect it for being unique and apparently sincere, but I never listen to it.
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