Prince or Stevie Wonder?

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Who floats your boat most?

a) Prince
16
40%
b) Stevie
24
60%
 
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Re: Prince or Stevie Wonder?

Postby DRUGS SNAKE » 08 Jun 2018, 09:45

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Re: Prince or Stevie Wonder?

Postby Goat Boy » 08 Jun 2018, 09:55

sloopjohnc wrote:
Bent Fabric wrote:and - arguably - where his "Does he or doesn't he?" Todd Rundgren influence really flowers fullest.


I think this is what's called "burying the lead," as Goatboy is a huge Rundgren fan.

It makes sense now.


The other weekend the lass and I had a friend round for drinks. I was sufficiently lubricated, the lass was fair chatting away and in such moments I’ll often try and play something I know she isn’t keen on but which I love as an act of cheeky rebellion. If I’ve had whisky it’ll no doubt be a ten second blast of Black Cow before the lass demands that I “turn that Steely Dan shit off”. Other times I play less offensive material knowing I have a greater chance of getting away with it and the other weekend it was Something/Anything?. There were a few sideways glances, to be expected, but by the time Breathless came on she pulled one of those “what the fuck is this shit” faces and I knew it would be over before The Night The Carousel Burnt Down appeared. I’m sure anybody with a partner who is into music knows exactly what their particular “what is this shit” face looks like.

Why doesn’t Breathless bother me but, in comparison, those synths on Living For The City do (a bit)? Maybe it’s just because Todd did it so wholeheartedly. He really opened the door to a new sound world and stepped right on through. He really hung around for a while. It’s not gimmicky. There is complete commitment verging on abandonment, be it on Breathless or Flamingo or In and Out The Chakras or (hell yeah) The Spark of Life. And even when he uses it just to add a bit of colour it’s more intuitive to me (like that beautiful synth that appears in the background on I Don’t Want To Tie You Down). With Stevie it’s a bit like, “here’s my new piece of kit, fellas!”. I don’t think he needed to use ‘em. I’m not sure it adds anything that couldn’t have been achieved with strings or something else a lot of the time. I appreciate for a soul artist it took balls and it was an unusual step but to me it sometimes recalls similarly lurid attempts at integrating the new technology by some of the proggers. Of course I’m sure some would similarly baulk at those Todd songs I mentioned earlier.
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Re: Prince or Stevie Wonder?

Postby fange » 08 Jun 2018, 10:22

Goat Boy wrote:Why doesn’t Breathless bother me but, in comparison, those synths on Living For The City do (a bit)? Maybe it’s just because Todd did it so wholeheartedly. He really opened the door to a new sound world and stepped right on through. He really hung around for a while. It’s not gimmicky. There is complete commitment verging on abandonment, be it on Breathless or Flamingo or In and Out The Chakras or (hell yeah) The Spark of Life. And even when he uses it just to add a bit of colour it’s more intuitive to me (like that beautiful synth that appears in the background on I Don’t Want To Tie You Down). With Stevie it’s a bit like, “here’s my new piece of kit, fellas!”. I don’t think he needed to use ‘em. I’m not sure it adds anything that couldn’t have been achieved with strings or something else a lot of the time. I appreciate for a soul artist it took balls and it was an unusual step but to me it sometimes recalls similarly lurid attempts at integrating the new technology by some of the proggers. Of course I’m sure some would similarly baulk at those Todd songs I mentioned earlier.

Man, each to their own, but i love the synths on 'Living For The City', and think they fit in with that lyrical theme of modern life or maybe modern urban decay that Stevie seemed to be going for.
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Re: Prince or Stevie Wonder?

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Re: Prince or Stevie Wonder?

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Re: Prince or Stevie Wonder?

Postby gash’s trollish obsession » 08 Jun 2018, 10:33

I don’t buy his use of the Tonto lads as him playing with new toys, they were fully on board for what, five records? Stevie’s sound at this time was fully in step with that highly coloured, almost unreal flavour of CTI, Afrocentric cosmic jazz or (urgh) Bernie Worrell - future sounds.
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Re: Prince or Stevie Wonder?

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It’s just next to the freshly smashed pesto flangey.

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Re: Prince or Stevie Wonder?

Postby Goat Boy » 08 Jun 2018, 10:42

fange wrote:
Goat Boy wrote:Why doesn’t Breathless bother me but, in comparison, those synths on Living For The City do (a bit)? Maybe it’s just because Todd did it so wholeheartedly. He really opened the door to a new sound world and stepped right on through. He really hung around for a while. It’s not gimmicky. There is complete commitment verging on abandonment, be it on Breathless or Flamingo or In and Out The Chakras or (hell yeah) The Spark of Life. And even when he uses it just to add a bit of colour it’s more intuitive to me (like that beautiful synth that appears in the background on I Don’t Want To Tie You Down). With Stevie it’s a bit like, “here’s my new piece of kit, fellas!”. I don’t think he needed to use ‘em. I’m not sure it adds anything that couldn’t have been achieved with strings or something else a lot of the time. I appreciate for a soul artist it took balls and it was an unusual step but to me it sometimes recalls similarly lurid attempts at integrating the new technology by some of the proggers. Of course I’m sure some would similarly baulk at those Todd songs I mentioned earlier.

Man, each to their own, but i love the synths on 'Living For The City', and think they fit in with that lyrical theme of modern life or maybe modern urban decay that Stevie seemed to be going for.


They certainly sound hellish
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Re: Prince or Stevie Wonder?

Postby DRUGS SNAKE » 08 Jun 2018, 10:45

It's like that mid-70s Hancock shit that some of you go for - the synth sounds are objectively horrible.
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Re: Prince or Stevie Wonder?

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Re: Prince or Stevie Wonder?

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Where’s Matt Wilson when you need him?
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Re: Prince or Stevie Wonder?

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Re: Prince or Stevie Wonder?

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Re: Prince or Stevie Wonder?

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A couple of great Prince tunes from as late as 2006.
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Re: Prince or Stevie Wonder?

Postby sloopjohnc » 08 Jun 2018, 17:25

Goat Boy wrote:
sloopjohnc wrote:
Bent Fabric wrote:and - arguably - where his "Does he or doesn't he?" Todd Rundgren influence really flowers fullest.


I think this is what's called "burying the lead," as Goatboy is a huge Rundgren fan.

It makes sense now.


The other weekend the lass and I had a friend round for drinks. I was sufficiently lubricated, the lass was fair chatting away and in such moments I’ll often try and play something I know she isn’t keen on but which I love as an act of cheeky rebellion. If I’ve had whisky it’ll no doubt be a ten second blast of Black Cow before the lass demands that I “turn that Steely Dan shit off”. Other times I play less offensive material knowing I have a greater chance of getting away with it and the other weekend it was Something/Anything?. There were a few sideways glances, to be expected, but by the time Breathless came on she pulled one of those “what the fuck is this shit” faces and I knew it would be over before The Night The Carousel Burnt Down appeared. I’m sure anybody with a partner who is into music knows exactly what their particular “what is this shit” face looks like.


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Re: Prince or Stevie Wonder?

Postby Matt Wilson » 08 Jun 2018, 18:07

Let me get a partner again and I'll tell you.

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Re: Prince or Stevie Wonder?

Postby sloopjohnc » 08 Jun 2018, 18:20

Matt Wilson wrote:Let me get a partner again and I'll tell you.


I guess that leaves me as only your "booty call."

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Re: Prince or Stevie Wonder?

Postby Matt Wilson » 08 Jun 2018, 18:21

I'm sorry, John - but I've given up on older men for the moment, unless they make considerably more money than me.