Wings/70s Paul poll

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Every Night
14
3%
Man We Was Lonely
3
1%
Maybe I'm Amazed
26
6%
Another Day
12
3%
Too Many People
12
3%
Ram On
7
2%
Dear Boy
6
1%
Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey
24
6%
Heart of the Country
2
0%
Long Haired Lady
3
1%
Back Seat of My Car
14
3%
Some People Never Know
2
0%
Tomorrow
3
1%
Hi Hi Hi
7
2%
C Moon
6
1%
Live and Let Die
13
3%
My Love
8
2%
Get on the Right Thing
6
1%
Little Lamb Dragonfly
2
0%
One More Kiss
1
0%
Band on the Run
28
7%
Jet
29
7%
Bluebird
5
1%
Let Me Roll It
23
6%
No Words
5
1%
1985
7
2%
Helen Wheels
12
3%
Junior's Farm
17
4%
Sally G
0
No votes
Venus and Mars/Rock Show
5
1%
Listen to What the Man Said
17
4%
Magneto and Titanium Man
3
1%
Spirits of Ancient Egypt
3
1%
Silly Love Songs
10
2%
Let Em In
11
3%
Beware My Love
5
1%
San Ferry Anne
0
No votes
With a Little Luck
9
2%
Backwards Traveller
0
No votes
Mull of Kintyre
2
0%
Goodnight Tonight
5
1%
Daytime Nighttime Suffering
2
0%
Getting Closer
4
1%
Arrow Through Me
4
1%
Rockestra Theme
1
0%
Wonderful Christmastime
4
1%
Waterfalls
5
1%
Temporary Secretary
5
1%
One of These Days
1
0%
Coming Up
13
3%
 
Total votes: 406

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Wings/70s Paul poll

Postby Bent Fabric » 07 May 2018, 19:53

Surely I'm not the only person who plays these records in 2018.

I would say history and time have been far kinder to this music than anyone could have ever expected during the "Why won't my divorced parents get back together?" post "Beatles band" fan trauma of the era.

40-45 years later, this stuff (for me)absolutely bursts out of the car radio in a way that the more familiar likes of "Day Tripper" probably CAN'T.

I'm creating 50 options. You may pick 10.

I'm likely to miss out your favorite. Write it in.

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Re: Wings/70s Paul poll

Postby Hugh » 07 May 2018, 20:02

Where is Letting Go?

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Re: Wings/70s Paul poll

Postby Quaco » 07 May 2018, 20:40

I'm going through a phase of getting into this stuff AGAIN, in yet a different way, while simultaneously liking the dynamic, the man, the "group" Wings, quite a bit less. I'll come back to this, as I think it'll take a bit of research/organizing.
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Re: Wings/70s Paul poll

Postby space. invadere » 07 May 2018, 20:40

I went for:

Maybe I'm Amazed
Too Many People
Dear Boy
Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey
Long Haired Lady
Back Seat of My Car (probably my absolute favourite)
Jet
Let Me Roll It
Listen To What The Man Said
Coming Up


Lots off Ram! Monkberry Moon Delight is the most obvious omission to me, certainly a top ten choice.

and I'd probably take Big Barn Bed over Listen To What The Man Said

I've a soft spot for London Town, too - not sure if it'd replace any of my choices



I blow hot and cold on this stuff, but partly 'cos I haven't heard much of it for a long time, and partly 'cos it's a beautiful evening here, quick blasts of most of these choices served to remind me how great he could be for most of the 70s.
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Re: Wings/70s Paul poll

Postby Moleskin » 07 May 2018, 20:41

Rumour has it Archive editions of RRS and Wild Life are coming soon.
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Re: Wings/70s Paul poll

Postby Quaco » 07 May 2018, 20:41

Moleskin wrote:Rumour has it Archive editions of RRS and Wild Life are coming soon.

(As well as a 50th anniversary White Album.)
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Re: Wings/70s Paul poll

Postby Moleskin » 07 May 2018, 20:44

Where is Don't Let It Bring You Down?
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Re: Wings/70s Paul poll

Postby Moleskin » 07 May 2018, 20:45

Quaco wrote:
Moleskin wrote:Rumour has it Archive editions of RRS and Wild Life are coming soon.

(As well as a 50th anniversary White Album.)


I hope we get all of the Kinfauns material
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Re: Wings/70s Paul poll

Postby Matt Wilson » 07 May 2018, 20:51

Moleskin wrote:Rumour has it Archive editions of RRS and Wild Life are coming soon.


I hope they're cheaper than the Flowers in the Dirt Archive Edition. Over a hundred bucks for four CDs (none of them even near being maxed out), with a fifth that you needed to download.
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Re: Wings/70s Paul poll

Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 07 May 2018, 21:05

I had to winnow my list down from 18. Heee are the ones I wanted to vote for but had no room for...

Another Day
Jet
Heart of the Country
Silly Love Songs
With a Little Luck
Daytime Nightime Suffering
Mill of Kintyre
Wonderful Christmas
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Re: Wings/70s Paul poll

Postby Bent Fabric » 07 May 2018, 22:40

50 poll options was the max - I'd have likely provided more choices otherwise (not only do I see that some of your personal favorites were cruelly omitted, but I also note...only a few short hours later....that a few things I left out are in no measurable way "lesser" than a few of the selections I included...luckily, we are a resilient species).

I will also admit that 10 wasn't at all sufficient for me (and some absolute gems will have to live without my BCB vote). The me of this afternoon voted to the best of his abilities.

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Re: Wings/70s Paul poll

Postby sloopjohnc » 07 May 2018, 22:43

Davey the Fat Boy wrote:Wonderful Christmas


I thought I'd be the only one to vote for that.
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Re: Wings/70s Paul poll

Postby toomanyhatz » 07 May 2018, 22:56

Voted for "Maybe I'm Amazed," "Too Many People," and "Let Me Roll It," as those are the no-brainers. The rest I'd have to think about.
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Re: Wings/70s Paul poll

Postby Quaco » 07 May 2018, 23:08

More or less in order ...

The Back Seat of My Car
Dear Boy
No Words
Listen to What the Main Said
Maybe I'm Amazed
Monkberry Moon Delight - write in
Every Night
Loup (1st Indian on the Moon) - write in
Momma Miss America - write in
Jet


Bubbling under ...

Junior's Farm
Kreen-Akrore
Venus and Mars
Junk
Let Me Roll It
Little Lamb Dragonfly


To me, choosing ten was not that difficult. There are dozens that I like a lot, but not that many that are earth-shatteringly great.
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Re: Wings/70s Paul poll

Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 07 May 2018, 23:34

sloopjohnc wrote:
Davey the Fat Boy wrote:Wonderful Christmas


I thought I'd be the only one to vote for that.


I really don’t get the hate on that one.
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Re: Wings/70s Paul poll

Postby Bent Fabric » 07 May 2018, 23:53

Some observations -

Something like "Monkberry Moon Delight" (which I certainly enjoy...I've played it in bands, etc.) derives a great deal of its virtue from performance (obviously there's also some McCartney production/arrangement magic there - the Mellotron Mk II Mandolin sound coming in for all of 10 crucial seconds, that kind of shit). At some point you think about all of the vocal stuff he does throughout (his screamiest bits, his mumbliest bits, his scattiest bits - a dynamic tour de force), and it really does seem to depict a side of him that isn't "the 'Yesterday' guy doing a job of work - writing a timeless melody and executing it", but a more studio-savvy performer who knows how to make the microphone react. Ala "Hey Jude", it largely emands its length and scale based on the strength of his improvisations.

A lot of my own votes today are based on a certain sonic character - things like "With a Little Luck", "Listen to What the Man Said" or "Arrow Through Me" sound like a guy with a real knack for sitting down (often/mostly/largely) by himself in a studio* with a gigantic joint and sculpting these unconventional impressionistic pictures in sound. Billy Joel**, for example, had access to all the same instruments and effects, but his stuff manages to sound a hundred times more conventional. Tracks like these are like some pillow/cloud/heavily cushioned landing pad of luxurious 1970s fat soft rock genius, no guitars hogging up the midrange...just some (for a time) unending series of unique and effective choices and combinations that, perhaps, indicate something about the extent of his role in the Beatles (as a record maker).***


*It was not long ago that the conventional wisdom birthed such widespread comedic tropes as Alan Partridge implicitly being a tit for preferring the sound of "two spliffs Macca" to the more celebrated collaboration for which he is ultimately venerated/known. This may no longer be as rigid and inflexible a baseline as it once seemed.

**McCartney lite in extremis?

***The other ex-Beatles certainly all had some number of solo triumphs (commercially and artistically), BUT...do I dare say that (certainly by the time of BOTR and beyond) one of the four, on average, seemed to routinely make more singular, seemingly purposeful records that popped a little more (consider the glorious sloppiness of "Band On the Run" in all of its ballsy grandeur - concurrently, his three former bandmates all increasingly sounded, comparatively, like guests on their own records).

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Re: Wings/70s Paul poll

Postby Quaco » 08 May 2018, 00:04

Bent Fabric wrote:***The other ex-Beatles certainly all had some number of solo triumphs (commercially and artistically), BUT...do I dare say that (certainly by the time of BOTR and beyond) one of the four, on average, seemed to routinely make more singular, seemingly purposeful records that popped a little more (consider the glorious sloppiness of "Band On the Run" in all of its ballsy grandeur - concurrently, his three former bandmates all increasingly sounded, comparatively, like guests on their own records).[/size]

Maybe, in that McCartney always performed a majority of his own musical material (piano, keys, acoustic/12-string, bass, lead/bkup vocals, guitar, etc.), even when there was a "band" involved. So he is in all the cracks, not just, as you say, singing while some NY or London or LA studio people ostensibly play what Lennon/Harrison/Starr wanted. BUT when Lennon steps up to the mic, it always reeks of Lennonness, and I often prefer that to the sound McCartney makes. Harrison is a bit different, where the writing is so him that it all seems like coming out of his brain, and yet, the playing is very much other people's choices I'd guess.

I'd like to see solo Lennon get more of a revisionism now. Some is great, some is not, but the percentages aren't noticeably lower than McCartney's to these ears.
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Re: Wings/70s Paul poll

Postby space. invadere » 08 May 2018, 00:33

To me it's striking how quickly Lennon and Harrison ran out of ideas/interest. There were wonderful things at the start of their solo careers but the decline was steep soon after. McCartney just seemed to have more stamina, more left in the songwriting tank.
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Re: Wings/70s Paul poll

Postby Quaco » 08 May 2018, 00:49

Hodgson's Tears wrote:To me it's striking how quickly Lennon and Harrison ran out of ideas/interest. There were wonderful things at the start of their solo careers but the decline was steep soon after. McCartney just seemed to have more stamina, more left in the songwriting tank.

People sometimes ask whether it's better to know what you're doing (know chord names, progressions, learn theory) or just get along on the power of inspiration. The example of McCartney's inspiration lasting longer, if true, could attest to the importance of having a bit of musical knowledge. By the time somebody like Lennon or even Harrison (though lead guitarist in The Beatles and though he used lots of chords, I don't think he ever understood music theory as well as McCartney) was running low on ideas, McCartney was still doing solid musical work with disco bass lines, horn arrangements, medleys, and the like. Even when songs started to be less great, he was able to employ his musicality to make them at least better or more interesting.

Or maybe he just enjoyed music more. Lennon said he was largely interested in it as a way to impress his self onto the world. I think PM just liked music.
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Re: Wings/70s Paul poll

Postby Matt Wilson » 08 May 2018, 00:56

Only two other people have voted for "Venus & Mars/Rock Show?"

Hmm.....
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