Arthur Lee v Nick Drake v Syd Barrett

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Arthur
15
41%
Nick
15
41%
Roger
7
19%
 
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Re: Arthur Lee v Nick Drake v Syd Barrett

Postby Goat Boy » 09 May 2018, 10:31

You still hear Syd’s influence. When I first met the lass she tried to turn me onto a band called Tap Tap and when I listened to them I was like, “that’s totally Syd!”.

Sometimes it’s fairly subtle and not necessarily a direct influence, like the use of an exaggerated English accent to emphasise nationality and Otherness. Sometimes it’s straight out homage (Far Out on Parklife). Sometimes it’s attempts to create pop music that bounces around with the same kind of free spirited capriciousness Syd seemed to effortlessly channel (I remember MGMT specifically talking about this in relation to their second album....DON'T LAUGH). Sometimes it’s indie artists who use the solo stuff as some kind of template/inspiration and try and emulate that one take, free form, stream of consciousness thing with predictably contrived results. I can understand the appeal of course. There is something so singular about his use of melodies and chords and rhythms that they seem to possess a strange kind of unfathomable internal logic, like one of pops greatest puzzle boxes. Some people really want to take that golden watch apart and see how all the pieces were put together but you can’t do that to sui generis of course.

The obvious undercurrent of unease and instability, the light and shade, is predictably even harder it copy. I mean appreciate the effort and it’s nice to hear Syd’s spirit being kept alive somehow but, yeah, mostly file under: “folly”
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Re: Arthur Lee v Nick Drake v Syd Barrett

Postby Eddie Shah environment » 09 May 2018, 11:29

Oh, there's a BIG Syd influence on those 'English' Blur albums. 'Ernold Same'? fuck off!

and yeah, 'Far Out' is immediately recognisable as a kind of pastiche of 'The Gnome' or something. That's an example of it being done well, to my mind.

and that first MGMT album has all sorts of child-like melodic stuff that puts you in mind of Piper.

There's so much more - a lot of those Sarah bands stole a lot, you heard his style everywhere around 1986.

('dismantling a golden watch' is a great analogy, D!)
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Re: Arthur Lee v Nick Drake v Syd Barrett

Postby Bent Fabric » 09 May 2018, 12:06



This was one that always struck me as deliberately (and successfully) "keeping that spirit alive".

And then, of course, more literally, perhaps - there's bands like Italy's Jennifer Gentle or Chicago's own Grimble Grumble (God bless them both) whose goals are admirable enough, if not a bit "Surely, you've got something of your own to offer, as well."

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Re: Arthur Lee v Nick Drake v Syd Barrett

Postby fange » 09 May 2018, 14:55

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Re: Arthur Lee v Nick Drake v Syd Barrett

Postby fange » 09 May 2018, 14:56

Bent Fabric wrote:

This was one that always struck me as deliberately (and successfully) "keeping that spirit alive".

And then, of course, more literally, perhaps - there's bands like Italy's Jennifer Gentle or Chicago's own Grimble Grumble (God bless them both) whose goals are admirable enough, if not a bit "Surely, you've got something of your own to offer, as well."

One of the best groups of recent times, so many strings to their bows.
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Re: Arthur Lee v Nick Drake v Syd Barrett

Postby Darkness_Fish » 09 May 2018, 15:14

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Re: Arthur Lee v Nick Drake v Syd Barrett

Postby fange » 09 May 2018, 15:41

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Re: Arthur Lee v Nick Drake v Syd Barrett

Postby jimboo » 09 May 2018, 19:25

Hodgson's Tears wrote:Oh, there's a BIG Syd influence on those 'English' Blur albums. 'Ernold Same'? fuck off!

and yeah, 'Far Out' is immediately recognisable as a kind of pastiche of 'The Gnome' or something. That's an example of it being done well, to my mind.

and that first MGMT album has all sorts of child-like melodic stuff that puts you in mind of Piper.

There's so much more - a lot of those Sarah bands stole a lot, you heard his style everywhere around 1986.

('dismantling a golden watch' is a great analogy, D!)


I'll stick with what they did rather than who was influenced by them. I don't like or gravitate to bands reacting to loaded questions from interviewers "there's a kind of early barrett feel to track two"
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They all were and are pretty unique , who ya dig is who ya dig. What they did on their records are the most important thing.

Great post from Dougie (golden watch ,great).
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Re: Arthur Lee v Nick Drake v Syd Barrett

Postby The Slider » 10 May 2018, 14:36

LeBaron wrote:1. Nick Drake You Fuckwits
2. Syd Barrett might should be #1 because Piper


3. Arthur Lee
Not that there’s anything wrong with that


This.
Saves me typing

Not one album by either Art or Syd sounds anywhere near as rich and full-paletted as Bryter Layter
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