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Re: Kraftwerk : Song by Song

Postby never/ever » 13 Apr 2018, 12:52

I only had a rip of it before I finally found the LPs back in 2005. And yes, they sound most excellent.
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Postby ConnyOlivetti » 13 Apr 2018, 12:59

never/ever wrote:I only had a rip of it before I finally found the LPs back in 2005. And yes, they sound most excellent.


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Postby soundchaser » 13 Apr 2018, 13:32

Oh yes: very, very nice. Ralf and Florian, are now becoming very adept at working with synthesizers.

As you say, the ending is rather bonkers, but I wonder if the backwards parts were a homage to The Beatles circa 1967?

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Re: Kraftwerk : Song by Song

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soundchaser wrote:Oh yes: very, very nice. Ralf and Florian, are now becoming very adept at working with synthesizers.

As you say, the ending is rather bonkers, but I wonder if the backwards parts were a homage to The Beatles circa 1967?


If you believe that then you have totally missed the point about what the generalisation 'krautrock' was trying to achieve.
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Re: Kraftwerk : Song by Song

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ConnyOlivetti wrote:
never/ever wrote:I only had a rip of it before I finally found the LPs back in 2005. And yes, they sound most excellent.


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Re: Kraftwerk : Song by Song

Postby soundchaser » 13 Apr 2018, 17:12

jimboo wrote:
soundchaser wrote:Oh yes: very, very nice. Ralf and Florian, are now becoming very adept at working with synthesizers.

As you say, the ending is rather bonkers, but I wonder if the backwards parts were a homage to The Beatles circa 1967?


If you believe that then you have totally missed the point about what the generalisation 'krautrock' was trying to achieve.s



Perhaps you need to wash your ears out and take another listen to the songs conclusion.

It is awash with Beatle psychedelia.

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Postby Toby » 13 Apr 2018, 17:16



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Don't they just absolutely nail it? I mean, you can imagine cycling through a place like Ulm or Augsburg on a peaceful Sunday morning and this would be your soundtrack. It's so romantically timeless - like Hutter channels Schubert effortlessly.

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Re: Kraftwerk : Song by Song

Postby ConnyOlivetti » 13 Apr 2018, 17:31

soundchaser wrote:
jimboo wrote:
soundchaser wrote:Oh yes: very, very nice. Ralf and Florian, are now becoming very adept at working with synthesizers.

As you say, the ending is rather bonkers, but I wonder if the backwards parts were a homage to The Beatles circa 1967?


If you believe that then you have totally missed the point about what the generalisation 'krautrock' was trying to achieve.s



Perhaps you need to wash your ears out and take another listen to the songs conclusion.

It is awash with Beatle psychedelia.


Don't hear it! And agree with jimboo on the subject...
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Re: Kraftwerk : Song by Song

Postby ConnyOlivetti » 13 Apr 2018, 17:33

Toby wrote:

Heimatklange

Don't they just absolutely nail it? I mean, you can imagine cycling through a place like Ulm or Augsburg on a peaceful Sunday morning and this would be your soundtrack. It's so romantically timeless - like Hutter channels Schubert effortlessly.


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Re: Kraftwerk : Song by Song

Postby soundchaser » 13 Apr 2018, 17:49

ConnyOlivetti wrote:
Don't hear it! And agree with jimboo on the subject...


Then you’re both wrong.

That was the first time I heard the song and those backwards effects struck me as pure Fabs.

It’s not my fault they were the most influential band of all time. Krautrock wasn’t immune.

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Re: Kraftwerk : Song by Song

Postby soundchaser » 13 Apr 2018, 17:58

Are Kraftwerk really Krautrock, post-Autobahn?

I don’t think so.

Far too melodic and universal.

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Postby Toby » 13 Apr 2018, 18:57

Kraftwerk were never "Krautrock". And can you really define Krautrock? I don't think you can in any meaningful way, which is why it is a useless definition.

It is probably better to refine that to particular cities - Dusseldorf, Munich, Koln, Berlin.

See how Popol Vuh and Amon Duul are closely linked, Neu!, Cluster and Kraftwerk for Dusseldorf, Schnitzler, Gottsching and Tangerine Dream in Berlin.

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Postby ConnyOlivetti » 13 Apr 2018, 19:09

Toby wrote:Kraftwerk were never "Krautrock". And can you really define Krautrock? I don't think you can in any meaningful way, which is why it is a useless definition.

It is probably better to refine that to particular cities - Dusseldorf, Munich, Koln, Berlin.

See how Popol Vuh and Amon Duul are closely linked, Neu!, Cluster and Kraftwerk for Dusseldorf, Schnitzler, Gottsching and Tangerine Dream in Berlin.

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Re: Kraftwerk : Song by Song

Postby ConnyOlivetti » 13 Apr 2018, 19:29

soundchaser wrote:
ConnyOlivetti wrote:
Don't hear it! And agree with jimboo on the subject...


Then you’re both wrong.

That was the first time I heard the song and those backwards effects struck me as pure Fabs.

It’s not my fault they were the most influential band of all time. Krautrock wasn’t immune.


To be honest, I dont think there is a right or wrong
You hear what you hear and associate it with something from your preferences or what you call it, but guess you get what Im getting at...
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Re: Kraftwerk : Song by Song

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soundchaser wrote:
ConnyOlivetti wrote:
Don't hear it! And agree with jimboo on the subject...


Then you’re both wrong.

That was the first time I heard the song and those backwards effects struck me as pure Fabs.

It’s not my fault they were the most influential band of all time. Krautrock wasn’t immune.


Well , to be fair you would I guess because that is your only reference point.it wasn't theirs.If the purpose of Kraftwerk was to form a corporate identity and make electronic people music while trying to forge a new German identity following the war, aping the Beatles wouldn't be a good starting point. Stockhausen, who they claimed to have seen while under the influence of lsd would be a closer comparison.Kraftwerks whole output is the very opposite of blues anglo american bands and their influences and styles , the legacy and what makes them important is that they are the flipside of the coin , there are no us or uk influences in their work that is the whole point.
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Re: Kraftwerk : Song by Song

Postby never/ever » 14 Apr 2018, 10:50

A lot of this album you could call pastoralia. Lovely piece.
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Re: Kraftwerk : Song by Song

Postby gash’s trollish obsession » 14 Apr 2018, 11:30

Jimboo’s gonna shit his pants when he hears Autobahn.

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Postby Toby » 16 Apr 2018, 10:09



Tanzmusik

Here is the first appearance of Wolfgang Flür, although he does not appear on the recorded version.

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Postby Toby » 16 Apr 2018, 21:04



Ananas Symphonie

Not the end of an era, as some of the pre-Autobahn material would feature in live gigs up until 1975, but a metamorphosis is around the corner.

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Postby Toby » 17 Apr 2018, 10:17



Kohoutek / Kometenmelodie

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Distributed By – Phonogram GmbH
Published By – Kling Klang
Printed By – Gebrüder Jänecke
Lacquer Cut At – Phonodisc GmbH
Pressed By – Phonodisc GmbH

Kraftwerk's first ever "single", released at the end of 1973 and taking Kometenmelodie from Autobahn. Discogs does note a 1970 Philips Acetate release, but I think it's safe to say that it is unofficial. We're at the cusp of the new era - by late 1973 Wolfgang Flur was on "percussion" and Emil Schult would soon be providing artwork and conceptual narratives.