In Hindsight, Could It Be Magic - Barry Manilow

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In Hindsight, Could It Be Magic - Barry Manilow

Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 17 Mar 2018, 16:55

No - I’m not going to mount a defense of Manilow as an artist. I could probably pick out a few songs of his I don’t mind (“Weekend in New England”, his cover of “Ships” - not much more) - but I think this one stands out as a pretty special record. It was his first hit on his first album, before all of the key changes and the hokeyness.

I wonder how we’d regard Manilow and this track if he’d never followed it up. Would we be more willing to hear it on its own terms?

Anyhow - if you don’t like this kind of piano ballad, you won’t find much value in revisiting this. But if you like a record like Eric Carmen’s “All By Myself” - this might just push some pleasure buttons for you.

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Re: In Hindsight, Could It Be Magic - Barry Manilow

Postby jimboo » 17 Mar 2018, 16:57

Makes me yearn to hear Celine Dion do helpless.
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Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 17 Mar 2018, 16:59

jimboo wrote:Makes me yearn to hear Celine Dion do helpless.


I think you’d deserve that.
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Re: In Hindsight, Could It Be Magic - Barry Manilow

Postby George P. Smackers » 17 Mar 2018, 17:17

The Chopin C minor Prelude that takes up the first minute seems aggressively middle-brow, and I can't decide whether to admire it as ballsy or just think "this is his way of saying he's fancy in a way that's just not for me."

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Postby naughty boy » 17 Mar 2018, 20:24

I just found it tiresome.

Take That’s cover is better in every aspect.
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Postby harvey k-tel » 17 Mar 2018, 20:29

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Postby harvey k-tel » 17 Mar 2018, 20:38

Also, if I may pick a nit, Rayge-style, how else are we supposed to discuss this stuff, other than "in hindsight", unless one's opinion was formed and hasn't changed a bit since this stuff was released?
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Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 17 Mar 2018, 20:46

Harvey K-Tel wrote:Also, if I may pick a nit, Rayge-style, how else are we supposed to discuss this stuff, other than "in hindsight", unless one's opinion was formed and hasn't changed a bit since this stuff was released?


Always a possibility.
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Re: In Hindsight, Could It Be Magic - Barry Manilow

Postby ChrisB » 17 Mar 2018, 21:23

Irrespective of what we all think of Manilow, it's a great song

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Postby Brickyard Jack » 17 Mar 2018, 21:25

Cracking track.

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Postby Bent Fabric » 17 Mar 2018, 23:21

I love it to bits. Wouldn't call myself any sort of Manilow-fan, but this song/record kicks serious ass.

I played it to close a recent DJ night, and yeah - naturally, it sounded magnificent at full volume, but...tellingly, an old friend of mine had popped in, and he was having a real moment with it, along the lines of 'WHY hasn't some super heavy, sludgy, saturated behemoth of a rock band put this in their act!?!?" (the descending cycle of chords in the chorus is the sort of thing you could easily milk for ten minutes with nary a diminishing return).

So fucking good.

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Re: In Hindsight, Could It Be Magic - Barry Manilow

Postby Quaco » 19 Mar 2018, 17:16

It may not be my favorite of his, but it's very good and undoubtedly epic. BM often descends into cheesiness, which is why I keep picking up his studio albums and keep being disappointed, but his best is crystalline perfection. Barry Manilow's Greatest Hits is a stronger double album than Exile on Main Street.
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Re: In Hindsight, Could It Be Magic - Barry Manilow

Postby naughty boy » 19 Mar 2018, 17:30

oh WOW
Matt 'interesting' Wilson wrote:So I went from looking at the "I'm a Man" riff, to showing how the rave up was popular for awhile.

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Postby Quaco » 19 Mar 2018, 17:47

Yep that's how I roll!
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Re: In Hindsight, Could It Be Magic - Barry Manilow

Postby Sneelock » 19 Mar 2018, 18:05

Insert “projectile vomit” emoticon here.
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Postby Sneelock » 19 Mar 2018, 18:07

The timbre of his voice makes me feel all stabby.
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Re: In Hindsight, Could It Be Magic - Barry Manilow

Postby toomanyhatz » 19 Mar 2018, 19:02

I'll take "Dizzy" by Tommy Roe for the key changes into eternity. There's some Barry I like - I still have a soft spot for "Mandy" - but this is a bit OTT even for me.
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Re: In Hindsight, Could It Be Magic - Barry Manilow

Postby Ranking Ted » 19 Mar 2018, 19:52

Top 5 threads this evening:

Prog corner
Barry Manilow
Phil Collins
Cliff Richard
Meat Loaf

Jesus Christ. And this song is a load of show tune rubbish as well.

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Re: In Hindsight, Could It Be Magic - Barry Manilow

Postby naughty boy » 19 Mar 2018, 20:16

Ranking Ted wrote:Top 5 threads this evening:

Prog corner
Barry Manilow
Phil Collins
Cliff Richard
Meat Loaf


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Re: In Hindsight, Could It Be Magic - Barry Manilow

Postby WG Kaspar » 19 Mar 2018, 20:54

Quaco wrote:It may not be my favorite of his, but it's very good and undoubtedly epic. BM often descends into cheesiness, which is why I keep picking up his studio albums and keep being disappointed, but his best is crystalline perfection. Barry Manilow's Greatest Hits is a stronger double album than Exile on Main Street.

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