English Rose

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Yes or no

Poll ended at 21 Mar 2018, 13:41

Yes
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45%
No
11
55%
 
Total votes: 20

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Re: English Rose

Postby Butch Manly » 21 Feb 2018, 00:37

Musically, It's quite precocious for a teenager. But it's horribly saccharine in sentiment and that clumsy faux-olde-Englishe phrasing makes me want to go on a killing spree.
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Re: English Rose

Postby echolalia » 21 Feb 2018, 10:30

It’s never been one of my favourite Jam songs, but I like it fine. It’s lacy and flimsy and charming. And the foghorns! At the start he’s sailing out from Blighty, off to do his bit for Empire or perhaps a spot of piracy in the Spanish Main, and then at the end the white cliffs are looming into view through the fog and he’s anticipating the simple pleasures of homecoming – a quick shag, scampi and chips and a change of clothes. Yes, it gets my vote.

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Re: English Rose

Postby Pansy Puff » 21 Feb 2018, 11:18

**Neither the title nor lyrics of "English Rose" were printed on the original vinyl release of All Mod Cons due to Weller's feeling that the song's lyrics didn't mean much without the music behind them.

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Re: English Rose

Postby Goat Boy » 21 Feb 2018, 13:03

German Dave wrote:VIth form garbage with an added spice of Little-England boot-boy-ism. Stick it up your arse.


Little England boot boy ism? :?
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Re: English Rose

Postby Bent Fabric » 21 Feb 2018, 13:07

I suppose I'd only be piling on at this point.

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Re: English Rose

Postby Goat Boy » 21 Feb 2018, 13:09

You can just imagine him singing it to some lass whilst chewing gum.

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Re: English Rose

Postby kalowski II: The Revenge » 21 Feb 2018, 13:10

Bent Fabric wrote:I suppose I'd only be piling on at this point.


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Re: English Rose

Postby kalowski II: The Revenge » 21 Feb 2018, 13:14

Goat Boy wrote:
German Dave wrote:VIth form garbage with an added spice of Little-England boot-boy-ism. Stick it up your arse.


Little England boot boy ism? :?


It’s got “English” in the title.

Griff prefers Spanish Harlem.
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Re: English Rose

Postby Goat Boy » 21 Feb 2018, 13:24

I hope they speak English in Spanish Harlem
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Re: English Rose

Postby Darkness_Fish » 21 Feb 2018, 15:37

It's quite poor, would almost be completely unremarkable if not for the use of the sound effects team from The Archers. They mustn't have been able to get the guy who does the footsteps on gravel, or creaky door.
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Re: English Rose

Postby kalowski II: The Revenge » 07 Sep 2018, 15:08

It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man.

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Re: English Rose

Postby Rayge » 07 Sep 2018, 15:33

Goat Boy wrote:
German Dave wrote:VIth form garbage with an added spice of Little-England boot-boy-ism. Stick it up your arse.


Little England boot boy ism? :?


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Re: English Rose

Postby pig bodine » 09 Sep 2018, 15:24

I was one of those douchey American Jam fans back when it was released, but it always made my skin crawl. “No bonds can take me from “she.”” Get fucked.

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Re: English Rose

Postby Quaco » 10 Sep 2018, 03:37

Just listened to it again yesterday. It's still just fine. Much worse is the angry-for-no-actual-reason "Mr. Clean". Hearing Weller get bitter and angry at mister businessman catching the morning train and getting drunk at office parties is embarrassing and just silly. Let him do his thing! Lyrical low point of the album. (The music's fine.)
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Re: English Rose

Postby The Modernist » 10 Sep 2018, 11:40

Quaco wrote:Just listened to it again yesterday. It's still just fine. Much worse is the angry-for-no-actual-reason "Mr. Clean". Hearing Weller get bitter and angry at mister businessman catching the morning train and getting drunk at office parties is embarrassing and just silly. Let him do his thing! Lyrical low point of the album. (The music's fine.)


It's fantastic! You're criticising it from the perspective of middle age, but it's a young man's song and one, as someone who also grew up in a commuter town, I can relate to.

edit: I see we've had this discussion before. :lol: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=135034&p=3866716&hilit=mr+clean#p3866716

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Re: English Rose

Postby Quaco » 10 Sep 2018, 17:33

The Modernist wrote:
Quaco wrote:Just listened to it again yesterday. It's still just fine. Much worse is the angry-for-no-actual-reason "Mr. Clean". Hearing Weller get bitter and angry at mister businessman catching the morning train and getting drunk at office parties is embarrassing and just silly. Let him do his thing! Lyrical low point of the album. (The music's fine.)


It's fantastic! You're criticising it from the perspective of middle age, but it's a young man's song and one, as someone who also grew up in a commuter town, I can relate to.

edit: I see we've had this discussion before. :lol: http://www.bcb-board.co.uk/phpBB2/viewt ... n#p3866716

Hilarious! Aw man, feels like old times! :)
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Re: English Rose

Postby kalowski II: The Revenge » 11 Sep 2018, 22:29

‘Come Along’ meanwhile has a gorgeous but simple nursery rhyme feel, married to some of Weller’s most erotic lyrics yet.

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