Beefheart on German TV.

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Beefheart on German TV.

Postby K » 09 Feb 2018, 22:59

Apologies if this has been posted before, but it's cool.

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Re: Beefheart on German TV.

Postby bobzilla77 » 09 Feb 2018, 23:30

FUCK YEAH it is!

That version of Steal Softly Thru Snow is killer, and I think I finally understand how to play it after staring at Ed Marimba's left foot for several minutes.
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Re: Beefheart on German TV.

Postby yomptepi » 09 Feb 2018, 23:42

That is dancing music.
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Re: Beefheart on German TV.

Postby The Modernist » 09 Feb 2018, 23:49

It's horrible: ugly, twiddly nonsense. Seriously, how do people listen to stuff like that?
File it along with unlistenable 'experimental' stuff from the seventies like Hatfield & The North.

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Re: Beefheart on German TV.

Postby yomptepi » 09 Feb 2018, 23:51

The Modernist wrote:It's horrible: an ugly, discordant racket. Seriously, how do people listen to stuff like that?
File it along with unlistenable 'experimental' stuff from the seventies like Hatfield & The North.


You just need an in G. Like a lot of music, it sometimes needs a key to open it up.
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Re: Beefheart on German TV.

Postby Sneelock » 09 Feb 2018, 23:57

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Re: Beefheart on German TV.

Postby The Modernist » 10 Feb 2018, 00:00

yomptepi wrote:
The Modernist wrote:It's horrible: an ugly, discordant racket. Seriously, how do people listen to stuff like that?
File it along with unlistenable 'experimental' stuff from the seventies like Hatfield & The North.


You just need an in G. Like a lot of music, it sometimes needs a key to open it up.


There have been times I've enjoyed him believe it or not! But I find this side of him more annoying the older I get, it just feels so gimmicky and pretentious. I'm probably reacting to how popular he is on here as well if I'm honest (as he's BCB's sacred cow), just like Jimboo was on The Beatles thread.

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Re: Beefheart on German TV.

Postby Super-Jank » 10 Feb 2018, 00:02

G please give this a go:



if you can't dig it - and I mean REALLY dig it! - then I'm not speaking to you again
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Re: Beefheart on German TV.

Postby The Modernist » 10 Feb 2018, 00:07

What kind of extreme statement is that!? :lol:
You're probably joking.. but with Beefheart I can't tell because he's put on such a pedestal around here.

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Re: Beefheart on German TV.

Postby Super-Jank » 10 Feb 2018, 00:08

Listen to the bloody thing!
Diamond Dog wrote:and then we can have an adult debate about why you think there are 'over reaching' chord changes


Copehead wrote:I am a native speaker who got an A in O level English


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Re: Beefheart on German TV.

Postby The Modernist » 10 Feb 2018, 00:17

Honestly - the music was good: a skewed blues soul gumbo. The vocals didn't add anything at all for me, he's just dribbling on incoherently. Is it meant it be funny? He's the worst thing about the band in my view.

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Re: Beefheart on German TV.

Postby Super-Jank » 10 Feb 2018, 00:21

Oh boy.
Diamond Dog wrote:and then we can have an adult debate about why you think there are 'over reaching' chord changes


Copehead wrote:I am a native speaker who got an A in O level English


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Re: Beefheart on German TV.

Postby The Modernist » 10 Feb 2018, 00:44

He's the biggest sacred cow around and always has been. I've given up looking for opposing views on him because they're just not out there, not amongst the critical rock establishment anyway. He's the artist who unites the post-punkers and the proggers, more importantly he's become this rite of passage for anyone who considers themselves a serious music fan who wants to dig deeper away from the mainstream. So you get a kind of fait accompli around him, he's immune to the kind of criticism or fashionable revisionism that affect just about any other artist. He's like this article of faith for a certain kind of music fan.

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Re: Beefheart on German TV.

Postby Very Stable Baron » 10 Feb 2018, 00:48

Apart from his first record, I can pretty much take it or leave it. Happy now, G?
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Re: Beefheart on German TV.

Postby The Modernist » 10 Feb 2018, 00:52

Very Stable Baron wrote:Apart from his first record, I can pretty much take it or leave it. Happy now, G?


Yes! :D
Even though I've probably been put on ignore by the rest of BCB!

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Re: Beefheart on German TV.

Postby Super-Jank » 10 Feb 2018, 01:01

'dribbling on incoherently' is so far from the truth. It's clear you didn't even bother to listen.
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Re: Beefheart on German TV.

Postby Harvey K-Tel » 10 Feb 2018, 02:40

Moddie probably just hates Beefhesrt's hair.
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Re: Beefheart on German TV.

Postby fange » 10 Feb 2018, 02:42

Harvey K-Tel wrote:Moddie probably just hates Beefhesrt's hair.

And that pants-shoes combo.
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Re: Beefheart on German TV.

Postby K » 10 Feb 2018, 07:55

The Modernist wrote:What kind of extreme statement is that!? :lol:
You're probably joking.. but with Beefheart I can't tell because he's put on such a pedestal around here.

I have a proper journey with Beefheart, just like I do with Joyce's Ulysses.
For both, I have them a go after a recommendation from a friend. Hated them. But I trusted my friend, so I had another go. Hated them. Incoherent, difficult stuff. But the person who recommended them really knew his stuff, really liked music/books I liked. I have them one more go.

And it all fell into place. The music, like Joyce's writing, made perfect sense. It was exhilarating. I literally fell in love.


The clip is incredible because of what it says about the band. The tightness is remarkable. The groove is unbelievable. The Captain is so incredibly cool. I wish I could get away with that little chin beard (disclaimer: I'm bald).

That clip is a real trip.
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Re: Beefheart on German TV.

Postby yomptepi » 10 Feb 2018, 09:44

My first experience of Beefheart was Trout Mask Replica. I had absolutely no idea what it was. Poetry, impenetrable rhythms, random guitar shrillness. I had no idea. It wasn't until I listened to The Spotlight kid, and in particular White Jam that it all made sense. His poetry is so beautiful. The band are so tight. And the songs are made so that you will always find something new every time you listen. I never tire of his records, and they never cease to thrill me. It isn't something I can share in the car, or at a gathering, but something I can enjoy for myself.
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