What about this, then?
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What about this, then?
Inspired by recent threads by Moddie and Harvey... whatdowethink of this song and performance?
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Re: What about this, then?
I really want to like it (song and performance) more than I do.
Its apparent immortality is probably more remarkable than the actual song itself: the fact that it had appeared on two separate records by two separate artists before Derringer recorded and released the hit version seems like the only possible genesis for such a deathless artifact.
I've come back to so much music from this era, much of it seemingly cut from similar cloth (chunky hard rock with a pop sensibility), and yet this song almost singularly fails to move me anywhere nearly as much as, say, "Smokin' in the Boys' Room" - in spite of its longevity as "period shorthand".
Without looking at the actual stats, it seems inevitable that it would have been a recurring item on the nonstop Ringo's All Starr Band lazy susan.
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Its apparent immortality is probably more remarkable than the actual song itself: the fact that it had appeared on two separate records by two separate artists before Derringer recorded and released the hit version seems like the only possible genesis for such a deathless artifact.
I've come back to so much music from this era, much of it seemingly cut from similar cloth (chunky hard rock with a pop sensibility), and yet this song almost singularly fails to move me anywhere nearly as much as, say, "Smokin' in the Boys' Room" - in spite of its longevity as "period shorthand".
Without looking at the actual stats, it seems inevitable that it would have been a recurring item on the nonstop Ringo's All Starr Band lazy susan.
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Wikipedia wrote:In 2012, Derringer recorded and released a new version of the song with lyrics reflecting his Christian beliefs. Titled "Read the Word and Live It Too," the song also credited a "Big D" for the rapped verses.
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Re: What about this, then?
I've never knowingly heard it before.
I sincerely hope to never hear it again.
That is all.
I sincerely hope to never hear it again.
That is all.
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Re: What about this, then?
It sounds like pretty standard 70s boogie. Reminded me of Aerosmith.
It does absolutely nothing for me I have to say, but perhaps it's a classic within that genre, I don't know.
It does absolutely nothing for me I have to say, but perhaps it's a classic within that genre, I don't know.
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Gets a free pass because of Showbiz Kids and Chain Lightning
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The Modernist wrote:It sounds like pretty standard 70s boogie. Reminded me of Aerosmith.
It does absolutely nothing for me I have to say, but perhaps it's a classic within that genre, I don't know.
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Re: What about this, then?
I'd much rather be exposed to this kind of 70s FM-radio riff-driven stuff, formulaic as it is, than to allegedly cerebral King Crimson.
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I gotta say, I've always loved the song (it's MY "Smokin' In The Boys' Room"), and I think this performance kicks ass.
One thing that strikes me about it - while Edgar did play on Rick's album, the others in his band didn't, and Edgar didn't play on this song (yes, I had to look it up) - but they're throwing themselves into it (especially Dan "Free Ride" Hartman on bass) as though it's THEIR brand new single and they're sure it's gonna be a hit. Small wonder that Rick joined the Edgar Winter Group shortly after this, despite a successful solo album/single and production career.
Rick gives an unwittingly funny explanation of the song's genesis (he wrote it for Johnny Winter) here, starting around 10:12 -
One thing that strikes me about it - while Edgar did play on Rick's album, the others in his band didn't, and Edgar didn't play on this song (yes, I had to look it up) - but they're throwing themselves into it (especially Dan "Free Ride" Hartman on bass) as though it's THEIR brand new single and they're sure it's gonna be a hit. Small wonder that Rick joined the Edgar Winter Group shortly after this, despite a successful solo album/single and production career.
Rick gives an unwittingly funny explanation of the song's genesis (he wrote it for Johnny Winter) here, starting around 10:12 -
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Re: What about this, then?
George P. Smackers wrote:I'd much rather be exposed to this kind of 70s FM-radio riff-driven stuff, formulaic as it is, than to allegedly cerebral King Crimson.
Fuck yeah.
Matt 'interesting' Wilson wrote:So I went from looking at the "I'm a Man" riff, to showing how the rave up was popular for awhile.
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The Unfragrant Ox wrote:George P. Smackers wrote:I'd much rather be exposed to this kind of 70s FM-radio riff-driven stuff, formulaic as it is, than to allegedly cerebral King Crimson.
Fuck yeah.
It's actually sort of a fun riff to play--especially if you're 14-year-old in a guitar store in 1975.
I don't remember the guitar hooks, if such there be, in "Smokin in the Boys Room."
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The Unfragrant Ox wrote:George P. Smackers wrote:I'd much rather be exposed to this kind of 70s FM-radio riff-driven stuff, formulaic as it is, than to allegedly cerebral King Crimson.
Fuck yeah.
fuck naw
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Re: What about this, then?
Charlie O. wrote:I gotta say, I've always loved the song (it's MY "Smokin' In The Boys' Room"), and I think this performance kicks ass.
I agree. The main chorus (in which he repeats the title of the song) has always grated a little, but everything else about it is wonderful.
Edgar Winter's accent is sweet.
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Jeemo wrote:The Unfragrant Ox wrote:George P. Smackers wrote:I'd much rather be exposed to this kind of 70s FM-radio riff-driven stuff, formulaic as it is, than to allegedly cerebral King Crimson.
Fuck yeah.
fuck naw
Hell yes.
take5_d_shorterer wrote:If John Bonham simply didn't listen to enough Tommy Johnson or Blind Willie Mctell, that's his doing.
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Just looking at the youtube still image is enough to know that I don't want to hear it.
Like fast-moving clouds casting shadows against a hillside, the melody-loop shuddered with a sense of the sublime, the awful unknowable majesty of the world.
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Re: What about this, then?
If you're going to base a song on pretty much every 70s rock cliche at once, you should at least do it with a bit of a wink rather than a self-satisfied smirk (which gets way worse during the guitar solos).
I have a lot of tolerance for this kind of thing generally, and hearing the song on the radio between, say, Wings and Charlie Rich, it lends a certain necessary balance.
In this context? Bleugh.
And frankly I think Crimson has a better sense of humor than these guys.
I have a lot of tolerance for this kind of thing generally, and hearing the song on the radio between, say, Wings and Charlie Rich, it lends a certain necessary balance.
In this context? Bleugh.
And frankly I think Crimson has a better sense of humor than these guys.
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Re: What about this, then?
toomanyhatz wrote:I have a lot of tolerance for this kind of thing generally
You do?
take5_d_shorterer wrote:If John Bonham simply didn't listen to enough Tommy Johnson or Blind Willie Mctell, that's his doing.
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Re: What about this, then?
Good Lord, it shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as...
"Smoking in the boy's room."
"Smoking in the boy's room."
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Re: What about this, then?
toomanyhatz wrote:If you're going to base a song on pretty much every 70s rock cliche at once...
Well, the Johnny Winter And version came out in 1970. So you're saying it's innovative, I guess.
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Darkness_Fish wrote:Just looking at the youtube still image is enough to know that I don't want to hear it.
Hell, I coulda told you that.
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Re: What about this, then?
George P. Smackers wrote:I'd much rather be exposed to this kind of 70s FM-radio riff-driven stuff, formulaic as it is, than to allegedly cerebral King Crimson.
This, the whole thing. Derringer could have written it in his sleep; but at least he knows his audience.
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