Bowie loses his cool

Do talk back
User avatar
German Dave
Utter Cad
Posts: 50138
Joined: 16 Jul 2003, 21:22
Location: 16 Beasley Street

Re: Bowie loses his cool

Postby German Dave » 01 Dec 2017, 19:20

Davey the Fat Boy wrote:So...how exactly does labeling one’s music as “punk” limit you any more than labeling yourself “new wave”?


He wasn't talking about New Wave, he was talking about what had been happening those last couple of years as "a new wave" of bands or music. In that sense, to label yourself as "punk" would be to potentially assign limits to your ambition, musically speaking. Undoubtedly a dreadful thought to an ever-changing artist like Bowie.
kewl klive wrote:A deluxe Sandinista! was pulled when only one outtake could be found.


User avatar
The Modernist
Posts: 9651
Joined: 13 Apr 2014, 20:42

Re: Bowie loses his cool

Postby The Modernist » 01 Dec 2017, 19:27

There was very much a formula to punk in late 77/early 78 - shouty cockney vocals, vaguely political them v us lyrics, basic chords thrashed out, loud dynamic throughout and no change of tempo*... he preferred bands like Wire who were more experimental.

* Basically any Sham 69 single will be a good illustration

User avatar
Geezee
Posts: 11930
Joined: 24 Jul 2003, 10:14
Location: Where joy divides into vision

Re: Bowie loses his cool

Postby Geezee » 02 Dec 2017, 07:43

The Modernist wrote:
The Unfragrant Ox wrote:Dire Straits and Talking Heads toured together in the early days - they weren't really as far apart stylistically as you might think, as others have said.


I don't think that's true. Hendrix and The Monkees toured together, it doesn't mean they sounded alike.
Dire Straits had a rootsy Americana sound endebted to acts like Little Feat. I can't see how that sounds anything like Talking Heads.


But presumably that’s the context that he may be bringing up Dire Straits, since he mentions Talking Heads first and that seems to trigger a memory of a band whose name he can’t initially remember - seems pretty plausible he saw them together.

Either way of course he’s lying straight afterwards as he says that “music doesn’t play a big role in my life” so it is hard to gauge what he means, and the interviewer hastily changed the subject.
Smilies are ON
Flash is OFF
Url is ON

Hugh
Posts: 15375
Joined: 16 Jul 2003, 20:43

Re: Bowie loses his cool

Postby Hugh » 02 Dec 2017, 13:34

Deebank wrote:
German Dave wrote:He's winding them up, isn't he?


In 1978 when no fucker had heard of Dire Straits?

No.


Quite. Dire Straits first single was released in May 78 and the Album on October 78. The single wasn't a hit until it was rereleased in 79. They weren't worth taking the piss out of in 78