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Never Mind the Bollocks turns 40 years old.

Postby Jeff K » 07 Nov 2017, 06:25

Does anybody still listen to this? I can't remember the last time I did. Probably sometime back in the 80's when I brought it again on CD. I"m not one of these people who thought the singles were great and felt the rest of the album was padded out by filler, I enjoyed the entire record. If I'm in the mood for punk there's so many other albums released around the same time that I'd reach for before Bollocks.

Anyway, 40 years old and it still packs a punch.
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Postby Fonz » 07 Nov 2017, 06:50

‘Problems’ still gets a listen.

Prob listen once a year to whole album
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Postby Nervous Ned » 07 Nov 2017, 06:59

The last time I played it was over 5 years ago. I was suprised at just how good the damn thing was. Think I’ll dig it out again this week.

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Postby Diamond Dog » 07 Nov 2017, 08:06

At least once or twice a year.

If only to piss Yompy off.
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Re: Never Mind the Bollocks turns 40 years old.

Postby Darkness_Fish » 07 Nov 2017, 08:55

I've never heard it the whole way through. I just assumed the singles were all that mattered.
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Postby The Modernist » 07 Nov 2017, 09:17

It's probably 20 years since I last played it. I do have the vinyl gathering dust somewhere, I never felt the urge to buy it on cd. I'll occasionally listen to them on youtube, or I'll watch a documentary or something (I saw the film on McClaren the other day).

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Postby Dr. E. PLATE » 07 Nov 2017, 09:27

I was thinking about how uncool the album is these days. Was it ever? not that it matters much...
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Postby The Modernist » 07 Nov 2017, 09:51

Carla Breakthrough-Lark wrote:I was thinking about how uncool the album is these days. Was it ever? not that it matters much...


Is it uncool? How?

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Re: Never Mind the Bollocks turns 40 years old.

Postby Goat Boy » 07 Nov 2017, 09:54

Is it a bit of a relic? A cultural artefact?

It seems a bit cobwebby to me.

Which is not a slight on the music itself, but it comes from a time which is obviously, musically speaking, very different from today and divorced from this context I think it suffers somewhat.
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Postby Dr. E. PLATE » 07 Nov 2017, 09:58

The associations with yobbishness. It's thuggish loud music and young people today tend to turn away from that.

It's not sensitive.

And the reformations. Have you seen There'll Always Be An England?

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Postby Footy » 07 Nov 2017, 10:06

I have some of my LP sleeves framed on my front room wall and Bollocks is amongst them. They've been there a while now so the yellowness of it has been a bit washed out by the sunlight.
In my current mood and with the exception of a few tracks, the music has also turned a bit beige.
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Postby The Modernist » 07 Nov 2017, 10:06

Carla Breakthrough-Lark wrote:The associations with yobbishness. It's thuggish loud music and young people today tend to turn away from that.

It's not sensitive.



There's maybe something in that. It's a pretty uncompromising record in many ways, there's no attempt to vary their sound or anything like that. I agree that these days it's more of an artifact of a particular time and place. Generally these days, The Pistols are more important for their cultural impact than the music. I don't think young people would encounter The Sex Pistols unless they'd developed a particular interest in punk.

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Postby Dr. E. PLATE » 07 Nov 2017, 10:11

and yet....all you have to do is hear ‘and now I’ve got a reason-able e-con-o-my’ followed by the massed chanting/grunting - just wonderful!
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Postby The Modernist » 07 Nov 2017, 10:13

Oh yes, I still think that one is one of the most exciting records ever.

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Postby Dr. E. PLATE » 07 Nov 2017, 10:16

Isn’t it? And it’s totally uncompromising, as you said. Some people seem to think the music has lost its power - not a bit of it.
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Re: Never Mind the Bollocks turns 40 years old.

Postby Neige » 07 Nov 2017, 10:32

The vinyl has been in my collection for some 35 years (as an album-belonging-in-every-collection item ) - in 1977, I was a dope-smoking hippie and definitely anti-punk. ;)

With hindsight, I understand the urgency and appeal of the singles - but I don't think I ever bothered to listen to NMTB all the way through. :lol:
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Postby The Modernist » 07 Nov 2017, 10:37

Carla Breakthrough-Lark wrote:
And the reformations. Have you seen There'll Always Be An England?



Watching that video made me glad I never went to the gigs. There's something depressing about seeing old punks like that. There was also a vaguely distasteful nationalistic vibe running through the whole thing and you couldn't help notice the absence of any non-white face.
The band themselves were very good though, based on that clip. Tight and powerful, although I don't know how much post-production work went on with overdubbing and cleaning up the sound etc.

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Re: Never Mind the Bollocks turns 40 years old.

Postby Moleskin » 07 Nov 2017, 13:12

That's an EDL video, isn't it? Altogether rather ugly for the first couple of minutes. Drunken skinheads waving flags and singing 'patriotic' songs. No wonder the (single) non-white audience member looked so subdued.
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Postby Charlie O. » 07 Nov 2017, 14:24

Diamond Dog wrote:At least once or twice a year.

At least. I think it's pretty glorious.
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Postby Jeemo » 07 Nov 2017, 15:17

Moleskin wrote:That's an EDL video, isn't it? Altogether rather ugly for the first couple of minutes. Drunken skinheads waving flags and singing 'patriotic' songs. No wonder the (single) non-white audience member looked so subdued.


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