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YES! Genesis suck dogs cocks
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Re: Genesis

Postby soundchaser » 20 Mar 2018, 15:37

Hightea wrote:always liked this corny Collins song


Yeah, it's a fun song. Sounds more like 1980s Genesis than Brand X, though.

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Re: Genesis

Postby joels344 » 20 Mar 2018, 16:07

From Genesis to Revelation (1969) - Average with some strong highlights
Trespass (1970) - Average but interesting elements of Gabriel-era Genesis started to emerge here
Nursery Cryme (1971) - First great album with some absolute classics on it
Foxtrot (1972) - Excellent; and the beginning of one of the finest album runs in music
Selling England by the Pound (1973) - Masterpiece and among my 10 favorite records of all-time
The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (1974) - Masterpiece and among my 25 favorite records of all-time
Trick of the Tail (1976) - Surprisingly good prog album with Collins on vocals
Wind & Wuthering (1977) - Not good prog
...And Then There Were Three... (1978) - Not good at all. Someone should’ve stopped them here
Duke (1980) - Average with some standout pop tracks
Abacab (1981) - Fairly bland overall
Genesis (1983) - Average but there are some catchy tracks here and arguably the second best from Collins-era Genesis
Invisible Touch (1986) - Abysmal
We Can't Dance (1991) - An equally (in some cases more so) abysmal follow-up album
...Calling All Stations... (1997) - I’m for free speech and all, but this album should be banned

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Re: Genesis

Postby trans-chigley express » 21 Mar 2018, 04:35

joels344 wrote:From Genesis to Revelation (1969) - Average with some strong highlights
Trespass (1970) - Average but interesting elements of Gabriel-era Genesis started to emerge here
Nursery Cryme (1971) - First great album with some absolute classics on it
Foxtrot (1972) - Excellent; and the beginning of one of the finest album runs in music
Selling England by the Pound (1973) - Masterpiece and among my 10 favorite records of all-time
The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (1974) - Masterpiece and among my 25 favorite records of all-time
Trick of the Tail (1976) - Surprisingly good prog album with Collins on vocals
Wind & Wuthering (1977) - Not good prog
...And Then There Were Three... (1978) - Not good at all. Someone should’ve stopped them here
Duke (1980) - Average with some standout pop tracks
Abacab (1981) - Fairly bland overall
Genesis (1983) - Average but there are some catchy tracks here and arguably the second best from Collins-era Genesis
Invisible Touch (1986) - Abysmal
We Can't Dance (1991) - An equally (in some cases more so) abysmal follow-up album
...Calling All Stations... (1997) - I’m for free speech and all, but this album should be banned


I generally agree but with a few exceptions:
I think Trespass is way better than average and regard as part of their classic run.
Wind and Wuthering is a fine album, not bad prog at all
Genesis(1983) has an ok side one, but total rubbish on side two, far from second best

My ranking for the Collins-era albums:

1. A Trick of the Tail
2. Duke
3. Wind and Wuthering
4. And Then There Were Three
5. Abacab
6. Genesis
7. Calling all Stations
8. We Can't Dance
9. Invisible Touch

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Re: Genesis

Postby joels344 » 21 Mar 2018, 19:26

I need to revisit Trespass one of these days. And I do agree with you about their self-titled album. The first side is much stronger than the second side. I’d say Duke is probably my second favorite from Collins as well, but I’d still place Genesis 3rd. Then again, it’s difficult for me to even rank Collins-era Genesis, because I find it all pretty lackluster, outside of A Trick of the Tail.

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Re: Genesis

Postby Quaco » 21 Mar 2018, 19:29

I personally think Trespass is similarly one-sided. Side two has two of their greatest longer pieces and a lovely picturesque shorter song, while side one just seems, barring Gabriel's voice, like "average autumnal prog" (if such a thing exists) to me.
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Re: Genesis

Postby C » 21 Mar 2018, 20:27

Trespass is a very good album and under rated.

I get Jim's point about side 1 but it is 'breezy' autumnal prog and has a nice solid laid back feel - full of music

Interestingly making a comparison with the Genesis Live version of The Knife - Collins's tubs take the track to another dimension - John Mayhew's contribution is somewhat pedestrian






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Re: Genesis

Postby trans-chigley express » 22 Mar 2018, 00:47

Carlsson wrote:
Interestingly making a comparison with the Genesis Live version of The Knife - Collins's tubs take the track to another dimension - John Mayhew's contribution is somewhat pedestrian




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He was the weak link for sure

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Re: Genesis

Postby soundchaser » 22 Mar 2018, 13:01

Carlsson wrote:
Interestingly making a comparison with the Genesis Live version of The Knife - Collins's tubs take the track to another dimension - John Mayhew's contribution is somewhat pedestrian

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John Mayhew...the Pete Best Of Genesis ;).

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Re: Genesis

Postby soundchaser » 22 Mar 2018, 14:30

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Re: Genesis

Postby soundchaser » 28 Mar 2018, 09:26

What was the best Genesis concert you saw?

I didn't become a fan until 1980 and so missed the golden years.

The Duke tour was pretty amazing, though.

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Re: Genesis

Postby Hugh » 28 Mar 2018, 12:39

I only saw a gig on the Wind And Wuthering tour.

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Re: Genesis

Postby The Slider » 28 Mar 2018, 13:46

Post Gabriel I think they were probably at their peak as a live band on the ATTW3 and Duke tours.
They were still finding their feet on the Trick/Wind tours. In fact on the Trick tour they did that disastrous thing of having Mike and Steve introduce the songs as well as Phil.
They were dreadful

And Bruford is not as good - for Genesis - as Chester.
He is too stiff.
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Re: Genesis

Postby Jeemo » 28 Mar 2018, 14:07

I only saw them once on the Duke tour. They were great but Collins was tiresome as a front man.

When I finally saw live footage of the Gabriel era, I found Gabriel to be even more annoying than Collins.
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Re: Genesis

Postby SUMPTUOUS SI » 28 Mar 2018, 14:18

I think even the band found Gabriel annoying!
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Re: Genesis

Postby soundchaser » 28 Mar 2018, 16:38

The Slider wrote:Post Gabriel I think they were probably at their peak as a live band on the ATTW3 and Duke tours.
They were still finding their feet on the Trick/Wind tours. In fact on the Trick tour they did that disastrous thing of having Mike and Steve introduce the songs as well as Phil.
They were dreadful

And Bruford is not as good - for Genesis - as Chester.
He is too stiff.


Cheers for this.

Chester really was an amazing drummer, wasn’t he. He and Phil were a formidable combination.

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Re: Genesis

Postby soundchaser » 28 Mar 2018, 16:42

Jeemo wrote:I only saw them once on the Duke tour. They were great but Collins was tiresome as a front man.

When I finally saw live footage of the Gabriel era, I found Gabriel to be even more annoying than Collins.


:D

I loved the Duke tour and thought Collins was a brilliant frontman.

I had previously thought Genesis music to be too dense for my taste: how wrong I was.

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Re: Genesis

Postby The Slider » 28 Mar 2018, 18:49

I think the duke tour was when he gained a little too much self confidence and started to become annoying.
Though I didn't notice it until two tours later, looking back at it now, it is apparent
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Re: Genesis

Postby Quaco » 28 Mar 2018, 19:05

When he cut his beard, he may have looked better (debatable), but he changed!
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Re: Genesis

Postby C » 28 Mar 2018, 19:16

soundchaser wrote:Chester really was an amazing drummer.


Of course. From the Zappa stable.

The last time I saw them live was the Wind & Wuthering tour - Chester and Phil's interplay was awesome.





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Re: Genesis

Postby The Slider » 30 Mar 2018, 13:02

It is the one aspect of the band that never diminished - even on the reunion tour it was as good as, if not better than, ever

1980 (I'm in the crowd at this one) when Phil still had a beard:




About 12 years later:



and another 15 years on from that:

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