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Re: Beatles

Postby The Modernist » 08 Feb 2018, 15:54

Matt Wilson wrote:I'm not the one arguing, you twat! :lol:

But since you're pulling me back in - someone needs to tell G the Beatles weren't the first UK band to release a psychedelic song.


Matt I do know my UK psych, but go ahead I'm all ears.

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Postby Count Machuki » 08 Feb 2018, 15:59

Count Machuki wrote:G, Matt says the Beatles weren't the first UK band to release a psychedelic song.


Matt, G says Telstar doesn't count.
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Re: Beatles

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Re: Beatles

Postby The Modernist » 08 Feb 2018, 16:07

Matt Wilson wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shapes_of_Things


Yes I do know it Matt. I don't need a wiki page. Actually I thought you were going to come up with 'See My Friend'.
It's a matter of debate how psychedelic 'Shapes of Thing' is -it's relatively conventional in many ways. There were many quasi- psychedelic things utilising drone or distortions from around 66 onwards (see stuff that now gets categorised as freakbeat), but they don't create the full on psychedelic sound picture in the way The Beatles did on something like 'Tomorrow Never Knows'.

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Re: Beatles

Postby Matt Wilson » 08 Feb 2018, 16:10

Doesn't mean it's not psych.

Sorry, G - the Beatles weren't the first UK band to record a psychedelic song.

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Re: Beatles

Postby The Modernist » 08 Feb 2018, 16:20

Well we're going round in circles now. I think The Beatles psychedelic tracks from 66 were far more psychedelic than 'Shape of Things' and therefore much more of a game changer.

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Re: Beatles

Postby Matt Wilson » 08 Feb 2018, 16:26

And you'd be right about that. The Beatles' stuff was always a game changer. My point was that they weren't the first to do anything.

And I'm just playing devil's advocate anyway. As I said, Coan said to say something unique, or whatever, so I just typed the first thing which came to mind.

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Re: Beatles

Postby soundchaser » 08 Feb 2018, 16:39

Matt Wilson wrote:And you'd be right about that. The Beatles' stuff was always a game changer. My point was that they weren't the first to do anything.


They may not have been the first, but they were always the best and most innovative.

And anyway, it was Beatlemania, that was the real game changer...for all of us.

So many bands would never have got going, if it weren’t for that cultural earthquake.

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Re: Beatles

Postby Matt Wilson » 08 Feb 2018, 16:53

True.

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Re: Beatles

Postby jimboo » 08 Feb 2018, 18:23

Hightea wrote:yeah the Beatles were not important to rock. They never did anything original, didn't reinvent the wheel, didn't change rock music, weren't important to rock music, everyone who came after and before them were better and more influential, didn't influence any rock musicians, didn't have three top flight song writers and basically are unimportant to rock and roll. :roll:


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Re: Beatles

Postby Diamond Dog » 08 Feb 2018, 22:51

The Modernist wrote:
Matt Wilson wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shapes_of_Things


Yes I do know it Matt. I don't need a wiki page. Actually I thought you were going to come up with 'See My Friend'.
It's a matter of debate how psychedelic 'Shapes of Thing' is -it's relatively conventional in many ways. There were many quasi- psychedelic things utilising drone or distortions from around 66 onwards (see stuff that now gets categorised as freakbeat), but they don't create the full on psychedelic sound picture in the way The Beatles did on something like 'Tomorrow Never Knows'.



I'd suggest the first Yardbirds psych song was "Happening Ten Years Time Ago" - that has many more of the classic psych sounds.
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Re: Beatles

Postby Matt Wilson » 08 Feb 2018, 23:23

That song doesn't predate Revolver though.

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Re: Beatles

Postby Jimbo » 09 Feb 2018, 03:49

Listening to NYC's WA"Beatle"C on my Channel Master transistor radio I distinctly remembering the disc jockey apologizing for the feedback at the start of "I Feel Fine." I'm not big on who had what song at exactly when in the psychedelic timeline but might not that happy accident kicked off the Byrds and Yardbirds experiments?
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Re: Beatles

Postby Matt Wilson » 09 Feb 2018, 03:51

No. There was feedback on records before "I Feel Fine."