WELL, let's have it! Which era of the prom slow dance do you prefer?!
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America vs. Extreme
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Count Machuki
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America vs. Extreme
Let U be the set of all united sets, K be the set of the kids and D be the set of things divided.
Then it follows that ∀ k ∈ K: K ∈ U ⇒ k ∉ D
Then it follows that ∀ k ∈ K: K ∈ U ⇒ k ∉ D
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Re: America vs. Extreme
That's weird: I opened up BCB now and was planning on googling 'America' in the other tab, intending to look something up about the Simon and Garfunkel song but being prompted to think of the band too.
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Re: America vs. Extreme
Both please!
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Count Machuki
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Re: America vs. Extreme
Quaco wrote:Both please!
Let U be the set of all united sets, K be the set of the kids and D be the set of things divided.
Then it follows that ∀ k ∈ K: K ∈ U ⇒ k ∉ D
Then it follows that ∀ k ∈ K: K ∈ U ⇒ k ∉ D
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Re: America vs. Extreme
Isn't the standard BCB viewpoint that the older song is always better?
I see no reason to reject that wisdom here
I see no reason to reject that wisdom here
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THE FILING FEE wrote:Isn't the standard BCB viewpoint that the older song is always better?
I see no reason to reject that wisdom here
Actually, John, in the case of 'More Than Words' the standard viewpoint is that the other song is always better.
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Re: America vs. Extreme
kak, kak here & a kak kak there. here a kak, there a kak...
(blow chunks)
(blow chunks)
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PENK wrote:THE FILING FEE wrote:Isn't the standard BCB viewpoint that the older song is always better?
I see no reason to reject that wisdom here
Actually, John, in the case of 'More Than Words' the standard viewpoint is that the other song is always better.
I just get the impression that the song (and the video - more clearly) was made purely to get young girls going.
Not that that's anything unusual, but - here it seems even more blatant/sickening, somehow. Awful shit.
Matt 'interesting' Wilson wrote:So I went from looking at the "I'm a Man" riff, to showing how the rave up was popular for awhile.
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THE FILING FEE wrote:I just get the impression that the song (and the video - more clearly) was made purely to get young girls going.
It definitely worked. Lady Q liked them when she was a girl, which is part of the reason I have fondness for it. Hair metal ballads -- gotta love 'em!
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Quaco wrote:Both please!
I mean, the one guy got the gig singing lead for Van Halen based on this video, but what else good came out of that band?
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Re: America vs. Extreme
sloopjohnc wrote:Quaco wrote:Both please!
I mean, the one guy got the gig singing lead for Van Halen based on this video, but what else good came out of that band?
Lots and lots of babies. Some of them must have been good.
Let U be the set of all united sets, K be the set of the kids and D be the set of things divided.
Then it follows that ∀ k ∈ K: K ∈ U ⇒ k ∉ D
Then it follows that ∀ k ∈ K: K ∈ U ⇒ k ∉ D
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Quaco wrote:Hair metal ballads -- gotta love 'em!
It's no "Sister Christian"!
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I have a hard time forgiving "I Need You" for being one of the few songs Harry Nilsson covered badly. But it has some lovely chord changes and a lovely melody.
By comparison, "More Than Words" is a ham-handed thing. Could that harmony be more stock?
By comparison, "More Than Words" is a ham-handed thing. Could that harmony be more stock?
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Apparently I voted for America (which I don't remember doing), but I don't mind that Extreme song. I liked it at the time.
Similarly to "Beth" by Kiss (which I also like), it's NOT a "power ballad." Power ballads come out of the acoustic part with huge echoey bursts of electric guitar - which this thankfully spares us. I imagine those trebly harmonies could be pinpricks on the brain in the wrong mood, but in a world of 80s hair metal it was certainly a breath of fresh air.
"I Need You" is not the greatest song in the world, but the studio version is sure prime George Martin production. LOVE the opening particularly.
And yeah - the Simon and Garfunkel song is better than either by miles. Of course it is.
Similarly to "Beth" by Kiss (which I also like), it's NOT a "power ballad." Power ballads come out of the acoustic part with huge echoey bursts of electric guitar - which this thankfully spares us. I imagine those trebly harmonies could be pinpricks on the brain in the wrong mood, but in a world of 80s hair metal it was certainly a breath of fresh air.
"I Need You" is not the greatest song in the world, but the studio version is sure prime George Martin production. LOVE the opening particularly.
And yeah - the Simon and Garfunkel song is better than either by miles. Of course it is.
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toomanyhatz wrote:"I Need You" is not the greatest song in the world, but the studio version is sure prime George Martin production.
Ian Samwell, actually. GM started working with America with their fourth album, though he did remix "I Need You" and other early hits for their History comp (not that he improved them). (Also, engineer Ken Scott - who co-produced Hunky Dory and/or Ziggy Stardust around the same time as recording this - had done some of the Beatles' sessions.)
Patchy though most of them are, I'm a fan of those first several America albums, and this has always been one of my favorite songs by them. The Extreme song sounded... vaguely nice the first coupla times I heard it, but there's something very second-hand and bogus about it.
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I was fond of 'Horse With No Name'. Endless rainy afternoons, doing my homework in Latin, and then this song came on.
Those were the days.
Those were the days.
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Big Extreme fan when this came out. This was the Beginning of the end of all that for me though. The album it's on is great though-Pornograffiti.
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Davey the Fat Boy wrote:I have a hard time forgiving "I Need You" for being one of the few songs Harry Nilsson covered badly. But it has some lovely chord changes and a lovely melody.
By comparison, "More Than Words" is a ham-handed thing. Could that harmony be more stock?
Charlie O. wrote:Patchy though most of them are, I'm a fan of those first several America albums, and this has always been one of my favorite songs by them. The Extreme song sounded... vaguely nice the first coupla times I heard it, but there's something very second-hand and bogus about it.
Yeah - there is a rather explicit "Goofus and Gallant each separately attempt sub-Beatles balladry" disparity here. Don't do what Donnie Don't does.