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Re: Bowie - A New Career In A New Town boxed set

Postby Count Machuki » 03 Oct 2017, 15:21

What was the lag time between boxED set and individual release for the others?
I can do these a week at a time, but not the whole enchilada at once.
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Re: Bowie - A New Career In A New Town boxed set

Postby The Modernist » 03 Oct 2017, 15:23

Count Machuki wrote:What was the lag time between boxED set and individual release for the others?
I can do these a week at a time, but not the whole enchilada at once.


Why bother if the sound is worse than the previous issues?

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Re: Bowie - A New Career In A New Town boxed set

Postby Count Machuki » 03 Oct 2017, 15:25

Good point.
Thing is I NEVER EVER see original copies of these especially. I've been looking!
I guess I could order online but screw that.
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Re: Bowie - A New Career In A New Town boxed set

Postby Count Machuki » 03 Oct 2017, 15:27

ConnyOlivetti wrote:And....
"Amazon UK says they are "out of stock", which one must assume is a euphemism for "it's pulled".


Plus they might (MIGHT) fix the issues before they're put out a la carte
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Postby ConnyOlivetti » 03 Oct 2017, 16:01

Count Machuki wrote:
ConnyOlivetti wrote:And....
"Amazon UK says they are "out of stock", which one must assume is a euphemism for "it's pulled".


Plus they might (MIGHT) fix the issues before they're put out a la carte


Well, I dont think they will fix it
The only error ( what I know of) is the volume drop on Heroes, and even though its an error, its minor, and the rest is mastering issues, and that is already set in stone.

Sad but a missed opportunity to do something really great with these classic albums.
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Postby ConnyOlivetti » 03 Oct 2017, 16:50

More info from mr Visconti himself

"Update from Warner Music UK:

"Please see below the statement that will be shared on Bowie's official channels. NB we will not be sending out replacement discs to anyone as this is NOT an audio fault.

DAVID BOWIE A NEW CAREER IN A NEW TOWN - HEROES

Concerning ‘Heroes’ what fans are hearing is not a level drop. This is, through mastering, an attempt to resolve an issue that exists on the original master tape.

On the flat unmastered transfer, there was a temporary loss of energy on the track just before 2.50. During the album mastering some high-frequency automation (in the region of +- 6dB) has been added in order to compensate for this. So to clarify, there is not a drop in volume, there is a high frequency boost for a couple of seconds at the loss of energy which then returns to normal and the track continues to the end at a level consistent to the start.

As the co-producer of ‘Heroes' Tony Visconti, was both fully involved and approved the remastering of this and all original albums within the set.


DAVID BOWIE A NEW CAREER IN A NEW TOWN - REMASTERING

The albums contained in A New Career In A New Town are how Tony Visconti, who was not involved in past remasterings, always wanted them to sound. He was previously hampered by the restrictions of vinyl regarding the bottom end.

Any tape hiss on the albums comes straight from the original analogue tapes. For A New Career In A New Town, there was no de-noising as had happened on the previous remastering of these records. The hiss is far more true to the sound of the original analogue tapes which Bowie and Visconti would have heard when making the record."

So, no error!
Shame about the mastering though
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Postby Moleskin » 04 Oct 2017, 14:50

I might be interested in the new mix of Lodger if it became available separately.
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Postby slightbreeze » 04 Oct 2017, 16:39

Bowie is the new Neil Young. I'm buying no more Bowie unless it's totally new unreleased material. I really don't care if you can now hear a cowbell on Joe the lion.

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Postby Sneelock » 04 Oct 2017, 17:09

my cloth ears really can't tell what's better or worse about any of this stuff.
it's always nice to hear it - it sounds good at a clip but it's just the same stuff again to my ears.
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Postby jimboo » 04 Oct 2017, 18:17

slightbreeze wrote:Bowie is the new Neil Young. I'm buying no more Bowie unless it's totally new unreleased material. I really don't care if you can now hear a cowbell on Joe the lion.


You can?
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Postby slightbreeze » 05 Oct 2017, 00:07

jimboo wrote:
slightbreeze wrote:Bowie is the new Neil Young. I'm buying no more Bowie unless it's totally new unreleased material. I really don't care if you can now hear a cowbell on Joe the lion.


You can?

Sorry, it was just the microwave pinging

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Postby mentalist (slight return) » 05 Oct 2017, 01:35

slightbreeze wrote:Bowie is the new Neil Young. I'm buying no more Bowie unless it's totally new unreleased material. I really don't care if you can now hear a cowbell on Joe the lion.

what he said!
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Postby jimboo » 05 Oct 2017, 18:26

slightbreeze wrote:
jimboo wrote:
slightbreeze wrote:Bowie is the new Neil Young. I'm buying no more Bowie unless it's totally new unreleased material. I really don't care if you can now hear a cowbell on Joe the lion.


You can?

Sorry, it was just the microwave pinging


There's a microwave pinging on Joe the lion , wow. Kewl.
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Postby slightbreeze » 05 Oct 2017, 23:56

jimboo wrote:
slightbreeze wrote:
jimboo wrote:
You can?

Sorry, it was just the microwave pinging


There's a microwave pinging on Joe the lion , wow. Kewl.

You just can't beat my 1970 Fidelity stereo.

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Re: Bowie - A New Career In A New Town boxed set

Postby trans-chigley express » 06 Oct 2017, 01:27

I received this message from Burning Shed where I ordered the set from:

"Hi
We have received a couple of queries about a "fault" on this box set as a result of poor reviews on other sites.
Warners have issued the following statement:
"Please see below from Parlophone regarding the perceived issues with the new David Bowie box –
 
Please see below the statement that will be shared on Bowie's official channels. NB we will not be sending out replacement discs to anyone as this is NOT an audio fault.
"

I can't say I even noticed this "volume" drop until it was pointed out and now I hear it but does seem more like a slight boost follow by drop to normal volume volume. It begs the question as to why the frequency boost could not be adjusted so that it didn't sound louder.

Anyhow, I am happy the boxset and think the sound is fine on all the albums.

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Postby The Slider » 06 Oct 2017, 08:03

^^ this
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Re: Bowie - A New Career In A New Town boxed set

Postby Diamond Dog » 06 Oct 2017, 08:17

So they added some sound to overcome a loss in volume - and over compensated and now everything after the 'boost' sounds like 'loss'.

That's serious fucking genius that. :roll:
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Re: Bowie - A New Career In A New Town boxed set

Postby kewl klive » 06 Oct 2017, 09:19

If only they’d managed to get one of the original producers to look at it.
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