John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 18

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John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 18

Postby WHOA THERE CHILD » 08 Jul 2017, 19:04

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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 18

Postby Diamond Dog » 08 Jul 2017, 20:58

Well it's not shit so I guess it's a hit.
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 18

Postby toomanyhatz » 08 Jul 2017, 21:40

It's a cliche to say Costello, fulfilling the Lennon role, and Macca, making a point of seeing things through, brought out the best in each other as opposed to (mercifully) the worst.

It's a cliche, but it's true.

Prefer "Veronica" and "Pads, Paws and Claws" and "That Day is Done," but couldn't be further from shit, particularly considering it was the 80s.
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 18

Postby The Modernist » 08 Jul 2017, 21:53

Listening to it again, it wasn't as good as I remembered in my head - I'd forgotten that late 80s production which does it no favours. Still it is a very appealing melody (with the chorus its main strength), and as such the kind of thing McCartney does very well. A hit.

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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 18

Postby WHOA THERE CHILD » 08 Jul 2017, 22:05

Would be nice if the three who voted 'shit' would come out and rant and rave a bit so we wouldn't have the usual tiresome equanimity
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 18

Postby Minnie the Minx » 08 Jul 2017, 22:07

I don't know what to think. I vaguely remember it the first time round. It sounds like a chicken defrosting on a Formica counter.
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 18

Postby WHOA THERE CHILD » 08 Jul 2017, 22:10

Grey Error wrote:I don't know what to think. I vaguely remember it the first time round. It sounds like a chicken defrosting on a Formica counter.


:lol:


The Modernist wrote:Listening to it again, it wasn't as good as I remembered in my head - I'd forgotten that late 80s production which does it no favours. Still it is a very appealing melody (with the chorus its main strength), and as such the kind of thing McCartney does very well. A hit.



all he does is sing 'MY BRAVE FACE' on one note!
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 18

Postby Quaco » 08 Jul 2017, 22:13

You forgot the patented Beatles major sixth chord which we're supposed to respond to Pavlovian-like. I used to like it for all the obvious reasons, but I've grown pretty tired of it. Too facile and the harking back to Beatle days is tiresome. 'Veronica' and a couple others from the Costello collaboration were better.
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 18

Postby Goat Boy » 08 Jul 2017, 22:16

Fucking shit
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 18

Postby WHOA THERE CHILD » 08 Jul 2017, 22:23

The Beatles' references in the video were a surprise at the time, I seem to remember. He hadn't been as obvious about it before.

I think when this came out people were relieved as much as anything (the appalling 'Spies Like Us' was still very fresh in the memory) but it's still a pretty mediocre effort.
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 18

Postby The Modernist » 08 Jul 2017, 22:36

BLACK FELLA wrote:
The Modernist wrote:Listening to it again, it wasn't as good as I remembered in my head - I'd forgotten that late 80s production which does it no favours. Still it is a very appealing melody (with the chorus its main strength), and as such the kind of thing McCartney does very well. A hit.



all he does is sing 'MY BRAVE FACE' on one note!


HIT!

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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 18

Postby WHOA THERE CHILD » 08 Jul 2017, 22:39

Were there any really good solo Beatles' singles after 1975?

(I suppose that discounts John pretty much, unless you rate 'Woman' or 'Starting Over')
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 18

Postby Darkness_Fish » 08 Jul 2017, 22:40

It's entirely awful. It's got that awful production job, where the drum sounds like a damp tea tray, and the awful backing vocals sound like pieces of polystyrene being rubbed together. The song sounds like Big Country. None of these things are a positive.
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 18

Postby Matt Wilson » 08 Jul 2017, 22:42

Liked it then, like it now. It's not great though. That album is, to this day, the last McCartney album I've ever heard.
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 18

Postby The Modernist » 08 Jul 2017, 22:44

BLACK FELLA wrote:Were there any really good solo Beatles' singles after 1975?

(I suppose that discounts John pretty much, unless you rate 'Woman' or 'Starting Over')


There's decent, likable stuff like this or 'Coming Up', but "really good"? No.

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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 18

Postby Canis lupus » 08 Jul 2017, 22:45

BLACK FELLA wrote:
I think when this came out people were relieved as much as anything (the appalling 'Spies Like Us' was still very fresh in the memory) but it's still a pretty mediocre effort.



...he fell even lower further than that, pally (after Spies like Us)



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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 18

Postby Canis lupus » 08 Jul 2017, 22:49

Darkness_Fish wrote:It's entirely awful...The song sounds like Big Country.


:lol:

you mean, like shit Big Country?

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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 18

Postby Still Baron » 08 Jul 2017, 22:49

BLACK FELLA wrote:I think when this came out people were relieved as much as anything (the appalling 'Spies Like Us' was still very fresh in the memory) but it's still a pretty mediocre effort.


I think I'd probably prefer "Spies Like Us."
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 18

Postby WHOA THERE CHILD » 08 Jul 2017, 22:52

Still Baron wrote:
BLACK FELLA wrote:I think when this came out people were relieved as much as anything (the appalling 'Spies Like Us' was still very fresh in the memory) but it's still a pretty mediocre effort.


I think I'd probably prefer "Spies Like Us."


Seriously?

Just the 'ooh ooh waddaya do' stuff makes me want to pull my fingernails off.
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 18

Postby Canis lupus » 08 Jul 2017, 22:56

...no one else can dance like you



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It's still completely ghastly

but Press is even worse (I defy anyone to watch all of that video)