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NOT NECESSARILY PROG CONTENT: Caravanserai

Postby Carlsson » 19 May 2017, 22:15

Full of oooofness or one step too far towards the slippery slope....?







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Re: PROG CONTENT: Caravanserai

Postby fange » 20 May 2017, 02:21

A bit of both; just depends on your point of view.

Personally, I think it is an absolute monster of a record. The total consummation of everything the Santana band had been working on up to that point - a unique fusion of latin rhythms, blues and rock, laced through with a deeply poppy, melodic sensibility. All of these aspects come through in beautiful relief on Caravanserai, which also sounds as magnificent sonically as any record of the time to me, from the chirping crickets to the band at full throttle.






(Not sure why the "PROG CONTENT" has to be there though, C, to be honest. )
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Re: NOT NECESSARILY PROG CONTENT: Caravanserai

Postby Carlsson » 20 May 2017, 13:46

Never wanting to offend lad.

Nay, never wanting to offend







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Postby fange » 20 May 2017, 13:55

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Postby Matt Wilson » 20 May 2017, 18:22

Easily the best of the band's fusion albums - and a fine cap to their classic '69 - '72 run. Of course, 1974's Lotus is great too.

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Postby Walk In My Shadow » 20 May 2017, 20:08

AmazonDE has a couple cheap.


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Postby WG Kaspar » 21 May 2017, 00:01

Walk In My Shadow wrote:AmazonDE has a couple cheap.


Festival

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Re: NOT NECESSARILY PROG CONTENT: Caravanserai

Postby Nancy » 21 May 2017, 01:03

Caravanserai is their last great album. The slope got slippery immediately after it.
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Re: NOT NECESSARILY PROG CONTENT: Caravanserai

Postby Carlsson » 21 May 2017, 08:02

Nancy wrote:Caravanserai is their last great album. The slope got slippery immediately after it.


Spot on Reap

Spot on.

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Postby never/ever » 21 May 2017, 10:13

Nancy wrote:Caravanserai is their last great album. The slope got slippery immediately after it.


I disagree....I certainly rate Lotus, Love Devotion & Surrender, Moonflower, Blues For Salvador and Borboletta as damn fine albums too.
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Re: NOT NECESSARILY PROG CONTENT: Caravanserai

Postby Carlsson » 21 May 2017, 11:11

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Nancy wrote:Caravanserai is their last great album. The slope got slippery immediately after it.


I disagree....I certainly rate Lotus, Love Devotion & Surrender, Moonflower, Blues For Salvador and Borboletta as damn fine albums too.


The only one out of that lot that I rate is Love Devotion Surrender and that is not a Santana LP





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Postby never/ever » 21 May 2017, 11:15

Wow. I was sure you rated some of these too.
I'm playing Moonflower now... What a sweet melodic album this is.
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Postby Carlsson » 21 May 2017, 13:54

never/ever wrote:Wow. I was sure you rated some of these too.
I'm playing Moonflower now... What a sweet melodic album this is.



Okay Maarts - I may have been a bit harsh.

I have just played Borboletta and it is a fine album. I suppose at the time I was very disappointed and I saw them on this tour and I had seen them a lot better....

The first four are seminal albums - one of the best 4 album runs (from debut) ever.

I'll respin Moonflower later








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Postby Carlsson » 21 May 2017, 14:32

Okay - Maarts do we agree that the one that followed Caravanserai - Welcome was poor.

That is what did me in - I was so disappointed. I saw them on that tour too (not that great but that was down to the current material....)






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Re: NOT NECESSARILY PROG CONTENT: Caravanserai

Postby Matt Wilson » 21 May 2017, 17:19

Stephen, Borboletta is no better than Welcome. Spend time with both and you will see. They're practically one double album. And if you rate Lotus, then I don't know why you didn't love them when you saw that tour because if memory serves, it's the same band. Moonflower is the last great one from the '70s, and Amigos has at least three great tracks.

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Postby Carlsson » 21 May 2017, 18:32

Matt, I tried Welcome again tonight and I just can't get on with it.

Sadly, I never warmed to Lotus

With the exception of Borboletta my mind, brain and body are locked into the first four.

I am never keen on 'funk' tracks

Oh well, back to Abraxas....









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Postby never/ever » 21 May 2017, 21:38

Carlsson wrote:Okay - Maarts do we agree that the one that followed Caravanserai - Welcome was poor.

That is what did me in - I was so disappointed. I saw them on that tour too (not that great but that was down to the current material....)






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I don't play it that often but I do love Flame Sky of it. Great track.
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Postby Matt Wilson » 22 May 2017, 00:14

Carlsson wrote:Matt, I tried Welcome again tonight and I just can't get on with it.

Sadly, I never warmed to Lotus

With the exception of Borboletta my mind, brain and body are locked into the first four.

I am never keen on 'funk' tracks

Oh well, back to Abraxas....











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Fair enough. but I just don't see that much difference between Welcome and Borboletta. He barely even plays guitar on the latter.

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Postby frimley_greener » 22 May 2017, 07:06

Caravanserai : I f you are a vinyl listener,this truly is one album that can be "make or break" according to the quality of your playback chain.By "quality" I do not assume cost.
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Re: NOT NECESSARILY PROG CONTENT: Caravanserai

Postby Carlsson » 22 May 2017, 07:19

Back in the day, and over time, I had to buy about 6 different vinyl versions of Abraxas before I got a decent one!

Surface noise or what..??!!






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