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Re: Elvis's posthumous popularity is plummeting

Postby The Savage Young Gash » 19 May 2017, 11:14

Nowt in the last 10 years then? Suppose that confirms the plummeting posthumous popularity.
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Re: Elvis's posthumous popularity is plummeting

Postby Jeemo » 19 May 2017, 11:15

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clive gash wrote:Has he ever been on a Mojo/Uncut cover?

The Guralnick books chipped away at the iconography, humanised him, but his is work from another age (60 years ago!).


As to your first question - twice on Mojo based on a quick image search. Never on Uncut.

As to your second - I wonder how Elvis compares against other 50s artists - Buddy & Chuck for instance. Presumably he's a lot bigger on Spotify etc, probably than the two of them put together.


He was on the cover of an early issue of Uncut. Photo from 68 comeback show.
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Re: Elvis's posthumous popularity is plummeting

Postby Jeemo » 19 May 2017, 11:18

clive gash wrote:Nowt in the last 10 years then? Suppose that confirms the plummeting posthumous popularity.


If I Can Dream was out 2015

The Wonder of You 2016. sold to date 725,000
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Postby The Savage Young Gash » 19 May 2017, 11:19

Both released in the run up to Xmas. As I said, Granny-nip.
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Postby Jeemo » 19 May 2017, 11:30

clive gash wrote:Both released in the run up to Xmas. As I said, Granny-nip.



you also said nowt in the last ten years.
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Re: Elvis's posthumous popularity is plummeting

Postby The Savage Young Gash » 19 May 2017, 11:35

clive gash wrote:Has he ever been on a Mojo/Uncut cover?


clive gash wrote:Nowt in the last 10 years then?


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Re: Elvis's posthumous popularity is plummeting

Postby Darkness_Fish » 19 May 2017, 11:37

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clive gash wrote:Has he ever been on a Mojo/Uncut cover?


Hm. Good question.

I guess not.

Perhaps it's not the old and infirm that are buying the Elvis tat then?
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Postby Count Machuki » 19 May 2017, 14:40

we cancelled an Elvis show and put on a Beatles show here at ASO this very weekend
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Re: Elvis's posthumous popularity is plummeting

Postby nathan » 19 May 2017, 16:51

I would imagine people under 24 would see him the way we saw Bing Crosby. Granted, I love Bing (and Elvis!) but to expect his style of recordings to live on in the same way as the Beatles or eve Bowie is ludicrous. His records sounded 'old' before the end of the 60's.

Outside of his initial splash, he never was a groundbreaking recording artist. The thrill of him existing was probably exclusive to baby boomers. Once they are gone, he will go the way of Der Bingle.

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Re: Elvis's posthumous popularity is plummeting

Postby K » 19 May 2017, 16:53

Moleskin wrote:
Could we put together a 'hip' Elvis CD from his later career? One that avoids too many of the obvious hits?

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Postby Goat Boy » 19 May 2017, 16:58

nathan wrote:I would imagine people under 24 would see him the way we saw Bing Crosby. Granted, I love Bing (and Elvis!) but to expect his style of recordings to live on in the same way as the Beatles or eve Bowie is ludicrous. His records sounded 'old' before the end of the 60's.

Outside of his initial splash, he never was a groundbreaking recording artist. The thrill of him existing was probably exclusive to baby boomers. Once they are gone, he will go the way of Der Bingle.


There's truth in this. I mean the Sun recordings must sound archaic to millennials.
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Postby Bride Of Sea Of Tunes » 19 May 2017, 17:22

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nathan wrote:I would imagine people under 24 would see him the way we saw Bing Crosby. Granted, I love Bing (and Elvis!) but to expect his style of recordings to live on in the same way as the Beatles or eve Bowie is ludicrous. His records sounded 'old' before the end of the 60's.

Outside of his initial splash, he never was a groundbreaking recording artist. The thrill of him existing was probably exclusive to baby boomers. Once they are gone, he will go the way of Der Bingle.


There's truth in this. I mean the Sun recordings must sound archaic to millennials.


OK, but millennials and middle-aged hipsters now sound more archaic, obsolete, and unteresting to me than The Sun Collection ever can sound to these demographic groups.

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Postby Matt Wilson » 19 May 2017, 17:29

Not to mention that rock music in general sounds archaic to today's hip hop/pop-loving teens.
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Postby bobzilla77 » 19 May 2017, 18:23

Velvis wrote:I think he seems to many younger people be an obsession of unhip, rural people. The kind who voted for Trump. Those associations tend to drag him down. However, a lot of younger people like Johnny Cash. Johny had the good taste to have lived longer and cover NiN and Nick Cave.


I think this has some truth in it. Elvis is getting a bit of a rebrand as a mainstream fixture, while Cash, Little Richard and Hank Williams will ALWAYS be cool.
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Re: Elvis's posthumous popularity is plummeting

Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 19 May 2017, 19:11

bobzilla77 wrote:
Velvis wrote:I think he seems to many younger people be an obsession of unhip, rural people. The kind who voted for Trump. Those associations tend to drag him down. However, a lot of younger people like Johnny Cash. Johny had the good taste to have lived longer and cover NiN and Nick Cave.


I think this has some truth in it. Elvis is getting a bit of a rebrand as a mainstream fixture, while Cash, Little Richard and Hank Williams will ALWAYS be cool.


I think this is a temporary snapshot of this moment.

Eventually some network will do a tv series about young Elvis with some heartthrob with good hair in the lead - and he'll be popular again.

Elvis may be from the black and white world, but he's become iconography. Like James Dean and Marilyn Monroe, he works on a poster.

He'll be back.
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Re: Elvis's posthumous popularity is plummeting

Postby Velvis » 19 May 2017, 19:16

I don't see younger people showing much interest in Hank Williams or Little Richard either.

Johnny Cash and Ray Charles, from that era, have some legs. But maybe that has to do with recent biopics. All it will take is an Elvis biopic, probably, to jumpstart his back catalog. Yeah, there was "Elvis and Nixon", but that was sort of a goof. And a bomb.

Come to think of it, there was that recent Hank Williams film starring Tom Hiddleston. But that got panned by the critics.
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Re: Elvis's posthumous popularity is plummeting

Postby Goat Boy » 19 May 2017, 19:20

Davey the Fat Boy wrote:
bobzilla77 wrote:
Velvis wrote:I think he seems to many younger people be an obsession of unhip, rural people. The kind who voted for Trump. Those associations tend to drag him down. However, a lot of younger people like Johnny Cash. Johny had the good taste to have lived longer and cover NiN and Nick Cave.


I think this has some truth in it. Elvis is getting a bit of a rebrand as a mainstream fixture, while Cash, Little Richard and Hank Williams will ALWAYS be cool.


I think this is a temporary snapshot of this moment.

Eventually some network will do a tv series about young Elvis with some heartthrob with good hair in the lead - and he'll be popular again.

Elvis may be from the black and white world, but he's become iconography. Like James Dean and Marilyn Monroe, he works on a poster.

He'll be back.


Yeah I don't think The Kids are buying posters of Dean or Monroe either.

I don't think he will be back sadly
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Re: Elvis's posthumous popularity is plummeting

Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 19 May 2017, 19:44

Well...if they sold stock, I'd buy right now. Mass culture tends to mine itself.
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Re: Elvis's posthumous popularity is plummeting

Postby bobzilla77 » 19 May 2017, 19:54

It will be interesting to see what 50s/ 60s music remains popularly known and referenced once all the people now living have died. But I won't be around to be interested.
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