John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 8

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HIT!
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John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 8

Postby inside-out fox » 17 May 2017, 09:35

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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 8

Postby Jumper K » 17 May 2017, 09:40

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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 8

Postby neville from norwich » 17 May 2017, 10:19

Diggin' the T Shirt. Enviable bod too. Nowhere near as much of a berk as Jagger.

We don't talk anymore about how Cliff has a good handful of transcendent pop moments, he was as much of a fixture on the new pop TOTP as Haircut 100, Adam and the Ants and Madness.

That's supposed to be a compliment :)
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 8

Postby Darkness_Fish » 17 May 2017, 10:28

I will never say anything positive about Cliff ever, other than that "Move It" was ok.
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 8

Postby Moleskin » 17 May 2017, 13:11

It's a good one.
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 8

Postby Bent Fabric » 17 May 2017, 13:40

Oh, this is a stone cold classic in my eyes.

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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 8

Postby inside-out fox » 17 May 2017, 16:03

I WOULD vote 'hit' but...

a) those fucking synths, those sounds, they really do sit on top of what is potentially a great song like pigeonshit on a statue

b) you get the sense that Cliff has absolutely no sense of humour whatsoever. Not that I'm expecting him to goon for the cameras like Robbie Williams, but there's always a twinkle missing somehow, and like Jagger there's a kind of business-like approach to his music (and his 'moves'!). He's kind of a tool and it's unignorable


You could send in a team of troubleshooters and overhaul the whole thing and end up with a classic, I reckon, but it'd need a lot of work.
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 8

Postby sloopjohnc » 17 May 2017, 16:35

For some reason, this song came into my head last week after nearly 30 years. No reason why - I couldn't stop singing the chorus.
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 8

Postby Goat Boy » 17 May 2017, 17:00

I think it highlights how much performance and production can really elevate something. In this case it's the lack thereof of course. It's a good song but it suffers from some naff production choices and Cliffs characterless performance
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 8

Postby never/ever » 17 May 2017, 21:33

Alan Tarney's keyboard-sound wasn't too bad -I remember his version of Kathy's Clown- and it hasn't aged too badly either, i.e. it doesn't sound so over-the-top plastic like so many other 80s productions.
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 8

Postby The Modernist » 15 Jul 2017, 21:31

I always found the tune and production really bland and unmemorable, and was surprised it was such a huge hit for him. I'd like to buy into Nev's theory that this is some paradigm of new pop but it's too wishy-washy to support that (Dollar would be a much better example of a deeply unfashionable act who nevertheless captured the new pop zeitgeist).
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 8

Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 15 Jul 2017, 22:32

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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 8

Postby Positive Passion » 16 Jul 2017, 08:18

A genuine classic.

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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 8

Postby toomanyhatz » 16 Jul 2017, 09:31

I seem to have missed this the first time around, but agree with a lot of what's been said here. There is the basis of something decent here but it's pretty half-baked. It's probably not missing much, but what's there is surely shit without it.
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 8

Postby Pat O'Banton » 16 Jul 2017, 09:33

Positive Passion wrote:A genuine classic.


Quite.
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