Donovan - late sixties

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Which is your personal Donovan?

Sunshine Superman
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19%
Mellow Yellow
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21%
A Gift From a Flower to a Garden
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23%
Hurdy Gurdy Man
12
23%
Barabajagal
7
13%
 
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Re: Donovan - late sixties

Postby Canis lupus » 22 Apr 2017, 18:32

tweetybird wrote: He's had massive help in all of these albums from other artists and arrangers.


...but not his "producer", so I've heard / read.

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Re: Donovan - late sixties

Postby Canis lupus » 22 Apr 2017, 18:39

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Breezes-Patchouli-Studio-Recordings-1966-1969/dp/B00BF0LHLA

BTW: £14 for 6 x remastered albums (plus loads of singles and non-LP tracks): bit of a bargain. Like a massive pick n mix / lucky bag, but when he's good (and he was, right thru from 66-69), he was tremendous.

As if the Fabs (at their very zenith) would loiter about with deadbeats?!

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Re: Donovan - late sixties

Postby Muskrat » 22 Apr 2017, 20:02

:{ wrote:https://www.amazon.co.uk/Breezes-Patchouli-Studio-Recordings-1966-1969/dp/B00BF0LHLA

BTW: £14 for 6 x remastered albums (plus loads of singles and non-LP tracks): bit of a bargain. Like a massive pick n mix / lucky bag, but when he's good (and he was, right thru from 66-69), he was tremendous.

As if the Fabs (at their very zenith) would loiter about with deadbeats?!

That's the oneI was referring to, above. Thanks for the linkage.
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Re: Donovan - late sixties

Postby sloopjohnc » 23 Apr 2017, 16:05

Quaco wrote:Donovan is a very silly man. I know he has written more great songs than I ever will, but there is always something phony about him. Or no?


Dylan seemed to think so.

Cat Stevens seems to have more creative and artistic integrity, it almost seems. And I bring him up because he mines the same vein of pop music ore.
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Re: Donovan - late sixties

Postby Muskrat » 24 Apr 2017, 17:38

sloopjohnc wrote:
Quaco wrote:Donovan is a very silly man. I know he has written more great songs than I ever will, but there is always something phony about him. Or no?


Dylan seemed to think so.


To be fair, that was in Donovan's acoustic period; one might say both he and Dylan were imitating inspired by Woody Guthrie, Jack Elliott, etc.
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Re: Donovan - late sixties

Postby sloopjohnc » 24 Apr 2017, 17:43

Muskrat wrote:
sloopjohnc wrote:
Quaco wrote:Donovan is a very silly man. I know he has written more great songs than I ever will, but there is always something phony about him. Or no?


Dylan seemed to think so.


To be fair, that was in Donovan's acoustic period; one might say both he and Dylan were imitating inspired by Woody Guthrie, Jack Elliott, etc.


Do you think Dylan's opinion would have changed? Or did he not even care by that point?
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Re: Donovan - late sixties

Postby Charlie O. » 24 Apr 2017, 18:21

sloopjohnc wrote:
Muskrat wrote:
sloopjohnc wrote:
Dylan seemed to think so.


To be fair, that was in Donovan's acoustic period; one might say both he and Dylan were imitating inspired by Woody Guthrie, Jack Elliott, etc.


Do you think Dylan's opinion would have changed? Or did he not even care by that point?

I think it was rare back then for Dylan to be particularly impressed by any of his peers.
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Re: Donovan - late sixties

Postby Bent Fabric » 24 Apr 2017, 18:37

I've generally got limited time to discuss the great folk off of Don't Look Back, but - suffice to say - Donovan really had not yet "become Donovan", in my view.
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Re: Donovan - late sixties

Postby Quaco » 24 Apr 2017, 18:40

And Dylan always seems threatened by people.
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Re: Donovan - late sixties

Postby zoomboogity » 24 Apr 2017, 18:43

I'm still waiting for the legendary "lost footage" of Don't Look Back to surface. You know, the part where Dylan calls him Don. Last time he ever did THAT!
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Re: Donovan - late sixties

Postby Bent Fabric » 24 Apr 2017, 21:47

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Re: Donovan - late sixties

Postby Bent Fabric » 24 Apr 2017, 21:48

Quaco wrote:And Dylan always seems threatened by people.


That Lennon footage is by no definition pleasant.

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Re: Donovan - late sixties

Postby zoomboogity » 24 Apr 2017, 22:45

Dylan: "Ready for another joint?"

Donovan: "Forget marijuana. Bananas are where it's at."

Lennon: "You're bananas, Don."

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Re: Donovan - late sixties

Postby Bent Fabric » 24 Apr 2017, 23:07

The not-inconsiderable credibility of the proposition that Donovan smoked bananas illustrates something rather fundamental about the man, how (royal) we respond to him, and perhaps some of the root causes of his own defensive tendencies

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Re: Donovan - late sixties

Postby Charlie O. » 27 Apr 2017, 02:46

The "Donovan vs. Simon & Garfunkel" thread is GONE. How did that happen?? Did someone say something libelous?

EDIT: never mind, I just stumbled acrost it. (I tried many different ways of searching for it before - including several Google searches, and trying the search function here for all threads contributed to by di Maio! Don't know why those didn't work.)
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Re: Donovan - late sixties

Postby Six String » 30 Apr 2017, 05:30

What album has Poor Man's Sunshine? That's the shit. Sam included it on a Jolly Up Comp ten years ago and it's my favorite Dono track.
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Re: Donovan - late sixties

Postby Charlie O. » 30 Apr 2017, 06:26

Six String wrote:What album has Poor Man's Sunshine? That's the shit. Sam included it on a Jolly Up Comp ten years ago and it's my favorite Dono track.

While the song dates from the late '60s, I would bet that Sambient used the version from the 2004 album Beat Cafe.
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Re: Donovan - late sixties

Postby Nikki Gradual » 30 Apr 2017, 09:44

The problem with Donovan was that absolutely everyone could see, smell and hear his utter desperation to be a pop star, and as if that wasn't difficult enough for someone of his talent, to be cool at the same time. Hurdy Gurdy Man is just cringeingly awful. I am sure someone clever has isolated his rubbish from the backing tracks desperately trying to mask it, but I never want to hear it. I guess he was really Al Stewart level – he did write a few decent tunes but they are not the ones he is known for – but even Stewart has more credibility.
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Re: Donovan - late sixties

Postby naughty boy » 30 Apr 2017, 10:58

I tried with Mellow Yellow a couple of nights ago. It's rubbish.
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Re: Donovan - late sixties

Postby Charlie O. » 30 Apr 2017, 17:35

Breef wrote:I tried with [fill in the blank] a couple of nights ago. It's rubbish.
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