John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 2

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John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 2

Postby *fun and open field* » 09 Apr 2017, 12:58

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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 2

Postby Diamond Dog » 09 Apr 2017, 13:00

Utter shit.
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 2

Postby The Fish » 09 Apr 2017, 13:15

Diamond Dog wrote:Utter shit.


Hard to argue with this really, although Artie gets cut a lot of slack from me for the albums Watermark and Angel Clare, loaded with JImmy Webb tunes and both great.
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 2

Postby algroth » 09 Apr 2017, 13:20

Context is everything, I guess. I love Watership Down to bits and that song is pretty emblematic of the film - I might have had a different response to it if taken away from that context but I really enjoy it all the same.

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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 2

Postby Darryl Strawberry » 09 Apr 2017, 13:23

Diamond Dog wrote:Utter shit.

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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 2

Postby Belle Lettre » 09 Apr 2017, 14:39

Shit, steaming pile of
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 2

Postby Minnie the Minx » 09 Apr 2017, 14:48

Wonderful. Hit.
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 2

Postby Rayge » 09 Apr 2017, 14:57

Arrgh, hit the wrong fucking button. I mean to SHIT but I voted hit, bah, fucksticks etc.

Anyway, my experience is the exact opposite of algroth's (not for the first time :) ): as a long-time consumer of doowop, I can't really fulminate about soppy songs sung in high tenor voices, and I didn't mind the record, especially as by then I didn't listen to the radio so only heard it occasionally, but Dogdammit if I didn't really hate that fucking movie, to the point I would have walked out if I didn't have company that was lapping it up.
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 2

Postby fange » 09 Apr 2017, 15:02

Oh no, please.
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 2

Postby Velvis » 09 Apr 2017, 16:12

I've never been exposed to this before.

There's a thin line between an aching Garfunkel ballad and shit.

This is shit.
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 2

Postby Bent Fabric » 09 Apr 2017, 16:36

It really seems to shy away from firmly standing up and being definitively hit or shit.

Which is somehow even more egregious in my eyes.

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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 2

Postby PENK » 09 Apr 2017, 16:52

algroth wrote:Context is everything, I guess.


Yeah - and the context here is that this is a song about a rabbit dying in a children's film. It is not 'Sister Ray'.

I think that it works within its context, though as an adult listening to it as a standalone song I wouldn't say I liked it.
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 2

Postby Goat Boy » 09 Apr 2017, 17:31

PENK wrote:
algroth wrote:Context is everything, I guess.


Yeah - and the context here is that this is a song about a rabbit dying in a children's film. It is not 'Sister Ray'.

I think that it works within its context, though as an adult listening to it as a standalone song I wouldn't say I liked it.


Aye although the chorus definitely has something.

Within the context of the film it's almost quite devastating mind
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 2

Postby algroth » 09 Apr 2017, 18:00

PENK wrote:
algroth wrote:Context is everything, I guess.


Yeah - and the context here is that this is a song about a rabbit dying in a children's film. It is not 'Sister Ray'.


I don't see the problem with that (other than calling Watership Down a children's film being as absurdly reductive as saying Animal Farm is a novel about talking animals). :)

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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 2

Postby PresMuffley » 09 Apr 2017, 18:34

I love the novel, never cared one bit for the animated feature. The song: poop.
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 2

Postby Diamond Dog » 09 Apr 2017, 19:07

algroth wrote:Context is everything, I guess.

PENK wrote:Yeah - and the context here is that this is a song about a rabbit dying in a children's film. It is not 'Sister Ray'.


No - it's so much more than that.
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 2

Postby Tom Waits For No One » 09 Apr 2017, 19:58

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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 2

Postby John aka Josh » 09 Apr 2017, 20:07

PresMuffley wrote:I love the novel, never cared one bit for the animated feature. The song: poop.





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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 2

Postby soundchaser » 09 Apr 2017, 22:18

I never liked Mike Batt, and this song gave me no reason to change my mind.

I think Art was wasted on this twee song.

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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 2

Postby *fun and open field* » 09 Apr 2017, 22:22

I think your reaction to this is probably very much influenced by whether you heard it as a kid (along with the film, maybe). It certainly moved me back then.

If it's new to you now, then it's going to sound very limp.
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