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Would Goat Boy like Trick Of The Tail?

I reckon so.

I think he'd find bits of both Trick and Wind & Wuthering to like, enough to keep coming back to anyway. After that he'll probably be tempted to try And Then There Were Three, he won't like it at first but he'll give it another go and then in a while another and he'll realise that he quite likes a few of the songs. So he'll move onto Duke, great! and then Abacab which he'll like because he'll find some electro-pop thing that chimes with him and then he's lost. He'll be buying the Phil Collins remasters before he knows it.

[Deebank]

Would Goat Boy like Trick Of The Tail?

I reckon so.

I think he'd find bits of both Trick and Wind & Wuthering to like, enough to keep coming back to anyway. After that he'll probably be tempted to try And Then There Were Three, he won't like it at first but he'll give it another go and then in a while another and he'll realise that he quite likes a few of the songs. So he'll move onto Duke, great! and then Abacab which he'll like because he'll find some electro-pop thing that chimes with him and then he's lost. He'll be buying the Phil Collins remasters before he knows it.

You see it as a slippery slope, but I've managed to stay on the bits that I find rewarding - the 'gateway' Genesis - without being seduced by the harder stuff (by which I mean the softer stuff - but that would ruin my tenuous drug metaphor).

My Genesis likes are quite close to GB's - minus Lamb which I haven't really listened to in any depth and plus Trick... Mind you, I heard Paperlate for the first time in 35 years recently and it got stuck in my head, so maybe I am damned

[trans-chigley express]

Would Goat Boy like Trick Of The Tail?

I reckon so.

I think he'd find bits of both Trick and Wind & Wuthering to like, enough to keep coming back to anyway. After that he'll probably be tempted to try And Then There Were Three, he won't like it at first but he'll give it another go and then in a while another and he'll realise that he quite likes a few of the songs. So he'll move onto Duke, great! and then Abacab which he'll like because he'll find some electro-pop thing that chimes with him and then he's lost. He'll be buying the Phil Collins remasters before he knows it.

I think it would more humane to just shoot him now.

I think he would have a hard time getting past the vocals of Collins on A Trick of the Tail as wonderful as that album is. It would just remind him too much of the latter day Genesis.

[harvey k-tel]

I was listening to Trespass last night and my turntable belt broke. You've been warned.

[Quaco]

Post-Gabriel Genesis has definite issues lyric-wise. It's like going from The Beatles to Wings. You have this uneasy feeling that they're going to say something stupid or don't really know what they're talking about. Even though Gabriel didn't write all the lyrics, you never had that feeling before. TOTT and WAW are both marvelous, but mostly because of the music and Banks finally getting all the space he wants.

[ConnyOlivetti]

Post-Gabriel Genesis has definite issues lyric-wise. It's like going from The Beatles to Wings. You have this uneasy feeling that they're going to say something stupid or don't really know what they're talking about. Even though Gabriel didn't write all the lyrics, you never had that feeling before. TOTT and WAW are both marvelous, but mostly because of the music and Banks finally getting all the space he wants.

WAW! To much Banks for me!
TOTT is by far the best!
They rushed it!
Trick - Released 2/2-76
Wind - released 17/12-76

Should have taken the time and re-think their concept!
Or something!

[naughty boy]

When I was on holiday in Greece in 2006 I spent quite a bit of time in record shops - lots of indies, and they still had a Virgin Megastore in Thessaloniki at that time. The places were stuffed with prog vinyl and CDs - the Greeks love that shit. I remember seeing the Toe Fat 2 cover for the first time in a dusty old record shop. Amazing.

Anyway I got talking to this lovely old fella who worked the shopfloor at the Megastore and he had all sorts of tales of who'd played there over the years. He'd been a roadie, played in local bands. He enjoyed talking and he loved his prog. I felt I had to buy some Genesis CDs (they'd just been remastered) so I came home with Foxtrot and Selling England By The Pound. The latter was OK, I suppose. I sold them both a few months later.

I don't know why I'm telling you this, really. I think sometimes you see the popularity of these bands in foreign countries and you think - oh, they must be good...

[Quaco]

Maybe Continental nations/cultures appreciate it more because it has more of a connection to classical and folk music, since their cultures weren't hit as hard by American/British pop music. There is a floridity about a lot of Euro music that is not far off of prog. It's a theory anyway.

[naughty boy]

Oh, for sure. I think there's something in that.

I had a similar experience in Italy, actually. Lots of prog in the CD shops - their home-grown stuff like PFM as well as the usual suspects. Whereas in Spain, they're more into power pop and garage and stuff like that.

[WG Kaspar]

When I was on holiday in Greece in 2006 I spent quite a bit of time in record shops - lots of indies, and they still had a Virgin Megastore in Thessaloniki at that time. The places were stuffed with prog vinyl and CDs - the Greeks love that shit. I remember seeing the Toe Fat 2 cover for the first time in a dusty old record shop. Amazing.

Anyway I got talking to this lovely old fella who worked the shopfloor at the Megastore and he had all sorts of tales of who'd played there over the years. He'd been a roadie, played in local bands. He enjoyed talking and he loved his prog. I felt I had to buy some Genesis CDs (they'd just been remastered) so I came home with Foxtrot and Selling England By The Pound. The latter was OK, I suppose. I sold them both a few months later.

I don't know why I'm telling you this, really. I think sometimes you see the popularity of these bands in foreign countries and you think - oh, they must be good...

We don't like Prog as much as we like metal and that is a FACT!

[Rayge]

oh for fuck's sake honestly

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[Deebank]

oh for fuck's sake honestly

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Ray, you'd love Robbery Assault and Battery. As a Londoner it would speak to you deeply... in your native accent!

[kath]

I was listening to Trespass last night and my turntable belt broke. You've been warned.

i love the pastoral sound of trespass. it can be quite beautiful.

i used to think cryme through lamb built up sequentially, ending on lamb, the greatest. but foxtrot has risen in my estimation over the last several years. my ranking depends quite a bit on mood.

oh, and i'm another trickofthetailer. that was my first and my gateway.

cheers, goat boy and pete.

[Nancy]

I was listening to Trespass last night and my turntable belt broke. You've been warned.

i love the pastoral sound of trespass. it can be quite beautiful.

i used to think cryme through lamb built up sequentially, ending on lamb, the greatest. but foxtrot has risen in my estimation over the last several years. my ranking depends quite a bit on mood.

oh, and i'm another trickofthetailer. that was my first and my gateway.

cheers, goat boy and pete.

I agree completely with my better half on almost all of the above here. I have gotten her turned on more to Trespass than she used to be, and she has tried mightily with The Lamb to varying degrees of success with me. I really love about half of it, like about 1/4 of it, and then there's that other 1/4 that just won't click with me. However, Kath will persist and someday I will see the wisdom of her wisdom. Sometime's I'm a bit slow on the uptake on these things.

Oh, and I'll take whatever slings and arrows I need to on this one, but I think "Driving The Last Spike" from the last album they made with Phil is a masterpiece.

[Ranking Ted]

End of days, I tells ya.

[kath]

End of days, I tells ya.

what. it's not like i've been drinking on a friday night.

[Hugh]

I'm not usually much bothered about surround sound mixes but I'm playing the 5.1 mix of The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway and it is pretty stunning.