Avant-garde albums of the 60's
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Avant-garde albums of the 60's
Including free jazz, freak folk, musique concrete, early electronic and experimental rock. I'm only including one album per artist. Pick your favorites, suggest additions.* You get five picks.
*I'm not going to edit the poll, though.
*I'm not going to edit the poll, though.
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I love the Zodiac album. I wouldn't call it avant garde though; more like hippy nonsense.
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Very hard to limit to 5. I went for:
AMM - huge influence on a lot of British psych I like.
Dolphy - The more you listen, the more you get its interior logic. It has ceased to even sound weird or at all 'edgy' the last few times I've listened. It's quite melodic, really - the melodies just aren't conventionally pretty.
Fifty Foot Hose - I love hippie aggression - I have a theory that the hippies ALWAYS had deep aggression hiding just below the 'peace and love' exterior - and they leaven it with enough traditionalism to play the juxtaposition for all it's worth. I love that show tunes are part of what they do.
Lothar - Not only nice country harmonies - there's that juxtaposition again - but they treat the synth as what it is - a fun toy. Unlike Silver Apples who I've always found overrated.
USA - For "Hard Coming Love" alone. A great album, as I've said here before.
Runners-up - Ornette, Coltrane, Cromagnon, Moondog, Nico, Red Crayola, White Noise
AMM - huge influence on a lot of British psych I like.
Dolphy - The more you listen, the more you get its interior logic. It has ceased to even sound weird or at all 'edgy' the last few times I've listened. It's quite melodic, really - the melodies just aren't conventionally pretty.
Fifty Foot Hose - I love hippie aggression - I have a theory that the hippies ALWAYS had deep aggression hiding just below the 'peace and love' exterior - and they leaven it with enough traditionalism to play the juxtaposition for all it's worth. I love that show tunes are part of what they do.
Lothar - Not only nice country harmonies - there's that juxtaposition again - but they treat the synth as what it is - a fun toy. Unlike Silver Apples who I've always found overrated.
USA - For "Hard Coming Love" alone. A great album, as I've said here before.
Runners-up - Ornette, Coltrane, Cromagnon, Moondog, Nico, Red Crayola, White Noise
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pcqgod wrote:
*I'm not going to edit the poll, though.
Not even to correct the typo on Coltrane's name?
Footy wrote:
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WG Kaspar wrote:I love the Zodiac album. I wouldn't call it avant garde though; more like hippy nonsense.
It is pioneering electronic music, though, for including a moog synth.
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toomanyhatz wrote:pcqgod wrote:
*I'm not going to edit the poll, though.
Not even to correct the typo on Coltrane's name?
D'oh!
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Well, that's a refreshing change from Beatles posts. Lots of lovely stuff, seems a shame to vote for faves, rather than just bask in the greatness. I still say the Silver Apples second was better than the debut, however.
Like fast-moving clouds casting shadows against a hillside, the melody-loop shuddered with a sense of the sublime, the awful unknowable majesty of the world.
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Niceness, the type of stuff we BCB thrived on a decade ago.
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The Morton Subotnick-LP is something else. This is where electronics really went spectral.
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I chose Fugs, Red Crayola, Zappa, Hapshash, and USA. Not necessarily the most avant-garde records of the bunch, but they're the five that had the biggest impact on my life. Well, four of them are, and then there's Hapshash.
I would have loved to have ten or fifteen votes, though. And some of the other artists would have stood a better chance at that fifth position if different albums had been offered (Lothar's Space Hymn, for instance, or even Coltrane's Om).
I would have loved to have ten or fifteen votes, though. And some of the other artists would have stood a better chance at that fifth position if different albums had been offered (Lothar's Space Hymn, for instance, or even Coltrane's Om).
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Re: Avant-garde albums of the 60's
pcqgod wrote:toomanyhatz wrote:pcqgod wrote:
*I'm not going to edit the poll, though.
Not even to correct the typo on Coltrane's name?
D'oh!
Or Hapshash ?
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Rayge wrote:pcqgod wrote:toomanyhatz wrote:
Not even to correct the typo on Coltrane's name?
D'oh!
Or Hapshash ?
I thought that was wrong, too, but that seems to be the correct spelling. Haven't had time to look at my actual copy of the thing, though.
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Wonderwall Music - G. Harrison
I remember coming home with the album and not hating it but hungry for the bits of melody in there. If you like Number 9 off the white album there's a whole album's worth of it in Wonderwall.
I remember coming home with the album and not hating it but hungry for the bits of melody in there. If you like Number 9 off the white album there's a whole album's worth of it in Wonderwall.
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White Noise -- An Electric Storm in Hell
8 years ahead of its time
and the title is An Electric Storm ( if Im not wrong)
8 years ahead of its time
and the title is An Electric Storm ( if Im not wrong)
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ConnyOlivetti wrote:White Noise -- An Electric Storm in Hell
8 years ahead of its time
and the title is An Electric Storm ( if Im not wrong)
You're right. The final track is titled "Black Mass: An Electric Storm in Hell."
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This is the kind of thread I like to see. The avant-garde in the 1960s was great. My 5 choices:
Nico - The Marble Index
Extraordinary album. Cold, stark, unusual, and very beautiful.
Silver Apples - Silver Apples
Catchy pop tunes with some of the most metronomic human drumming ever driving some lovely bleeping electronics. All I need really.
Peter Brotzmann - Machine Gun
Just about as confrontational and loud as free jazz can get.
Morton Subotnick -- Silver Apples of the Moon
Take away the singing and drumming from Silver Apples and you get this. Wonderful stuff.
Cromagnon -- Orgasm
Reminds me of the kind of soundscapes that Nurse With Wound would make 20 years later but with a 60s psychedelic folk twist.
Nico - The Marble Index
Extraordinary album. Cold, stark, unusual, and very beautiful.
Silver Apples - Silver Apples
Catchy pop tunes with some of the most metronomic human drumming ever driving some lovely bleeping electronics. All I need really.
Peter Brotzmann - Machine Gun
Just about as confrontational and loud as free jazz can get.
Morton Subotnick -- Silver Apples of the Moon
Take away the singing and drumming from Silver Apples and you get this. Wonderful stuff.
Cromagnon -- Orgasm
Reminds me of the kind of soundscapes that Nurse With Wound would make 20 years later but with a 60s psychedelic folk twist.
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Also pcq, no Residents on the list?
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driftin wrote:Also pcq, no Residents on the list?
Their first official release, Meet the Residents (1974)
Avant-garde albums of the 60's
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