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Brian Wilson
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Paul McCartney
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Re: Brian Wilson vs Paul McCartney 62-67

Postby Matt Wilson » 08 Dec 2014, 15:43

Oh, by the way, Miro - Brian didn't write the lyrics to "Wonderful" either.

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Re: Brian Wilson vs Paul McCartney 62-67

Postby Canis lupus » 08 Dec 2014, 19:18

Fuck off

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Re: Brian Wilson vs Paul McCartney 62-67

Postby Matt Wilson » 08 Dec 2014, 19:20

:D

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Re: Brian Wilson vs Paul McCartney 62-67

Postby Snarfyguy » 08 Dec 2014, 21:48

Quacoan wrote:Some good arguments so far. Impossible for me to say.

Same here. It depends on my mood, really.

If you had a gun to my head, I guess I'd say McCartney.
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Re: Brian Wilson vs Paul McCartney 62-67

Postby Tactful Cactus » 08 Dec 2014, 21:55

toomanyhatz wrote:The answer to this question is: June 14th, 1965. "Yesterday," "I've Just Seen a Face" and "I'm Down" were all recorded that day.



When you put it like that, very hard to deny

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Re: Brian Wilson vs Paul McCartney 62-67

Postby di Maio » 09 Dec 2014, 03:28

I have to side with Brian Wilson here, as it's pretty much the entirety of what we appreciate out of his music compressed into a 5 year span. Some of the late 60's/early 70's Wilson can catch fire, but you're generally not going to get too excited about "Imagination". This does not diminish what Paul was doing at the time, it's just that Brian was firing on all cylinders until SMiLE.

If you were to comparing a few more years here, or their entire careers, Paul has it. I mean to say Paul's just great.

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Re: Brian Wilson vs Paul McCartney 62-67

Postby The Slider » 09 Dec 2014, 08:14

I'm mystified
I mean even in '66, when Brian was at his very best, it isn't even a competition.
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Re: Brian Wilson vs Paul McCartney 62-67

Postby Jimbo » 09 Dec 2014, 08:35

.. wrote:
Matt Wilson wrote:Carol Kaye played the bass on some Beach Boys songs or course, but not every Beach Boys song! He certainly played the bass in concert. And since Paul plays bass too a BB fan of even a modicum of intelligence knows what I mean when I say they played the same instrument. You needed it explained to you and I was glad to do it.

You say Brian's best songs weren't surf or So Cal-oriented and then as an example you quote some Van Dyke Parks lyrics which Brian had absolutely nothing to do with. Come to think of it, you start a thread asking who was the more "gifted" or "important" musician and then roll your eyes when an opinion which you don't share comes your way.

I thought only Coan pulled shit like that!


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Re: Brian Wilson vs Paul McCartney 62-67

Postby Diamond Dog » 09 Dec 2014, 10:04

The Slider wrote:I'm mystified
I mean even in '66, when Brian was at his very best, it isn't even a competition.


I thought it was just me.

As you say, Brian got close a couple of times...but, really, think of the sheer quality and quantity of work Macca had compiled by the end of '67 (up until "Magical Mystery Tour")............... it doesn't take too much to work out who comes out top, surely?
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Re: Brian Wilson vs Paul McCartney 62-67

Postby robertff » 09 Dec 2014, 10:19

Both were/are great and, like many here I guess, I own everything they produced around this time, and later perhaps, but Paul takes it, despite God Only Knows.



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Re: Brian Wilson vs Paul McCartney 62-67

Postby Robert » 09 Dec 2014, 12:26

I have to agree fullheartedly with the Self Aggrandising Cock and the Self Quoter Extraordinaire here.

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Re: Brian Wilson vs Paul McCartney 62-67

Postby Goat Boy » 09 Dec 2014, 12:45

The Slider wrote:I'm mystified
I mean even in '66, when Brian was at his very best, it isn't even a competition.


What bollocks.
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Re: Brian Wilson vs Paul McCartney 62-67

Postby MALLETT » 09 Dec 2014, 12:55

But Paul McCartney recorded three songs on the very same day!!
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Re: Brian Wilson vs Paul McCartney 62-67

Postby Rayge » 09 Dec 2014, 12:58

Seeing as I feel McCartney is the single most pernicious influence on popular music over the last 60 years (top bloke, mind), I would have to vote for Wilson, although of course in those six years Phil Spector produced more great music than any other person ever in a comparable time period, while at least two members of the Bea*les, three Rolling Stones, two Kinks, three Yardbirds, four Small Faces and a host of American bands made better music than young James, and Jan Berry and others outperformed Wilson.
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Re: Brian Wilson vs Paul McCartney 62-67

Postby jim courier » 09 Dec 2014, 13:00

Pet Sounds is better and more consistent than ANY Beatles album.

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Re: Brian Wilson vs Paul McCartney 62-67

Postby Diamond Dog » 09 Dec 2014, 13:04

jim courier wrote:Pet Sounds is better and more consistent than ANY Beatles album.



Even if it was, which it isn't, you are not actually answering the question, are you?
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Re: Brian Wilson vs Paul McCartney 62-67

Postby Rayge » 09 Dec 2014, 13:10

Rootie Tootie wrote:But Paul McCartney recorded three songs on the very same day!!

And one of them gets my vote as the worst piece of shit ever recorded by anyone with pretensions to relevance until Moo of Kintyre came out.
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Re: Brian Wilson vs Paul McCartney 62-67

Postby Conrad Knight Socks » 09 Dec 2014, 13:16

More gifted - probably Macca.
More important - probably Macca.
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Re: Brian Wilson vs Paul McCartney 62-67

Postby MALLETT » 09 Dec 2014, 13:41

Rayge wrote:
Rootie Tootie wrote:But Paul McCartney recorded three songs on the very same day!!

And one of them gets my vote as the worst piece of shit ever recorded by anyone with pretensions to relevance until Moo of Kintyre came out.
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Re: Brian Wilson vs Paul McCartney 62-67

Postby Nolamike » 09 Dec 2014, 14:40

jim courier wrote:Pet Sounds is better and more consistent than ANY Beatles album.


I *think* I can get on board with this.

And I think those who are saying it isn't a competition are nuts. I mean, I'd stack "God Only Knows" and "Good Vibrations" (obvious choices, but still) against any two McCartney tracks from the same period. And I think Smile can just about hold its own against McCartney's '67 work.

And it's not like Wilson didn't have a load of gems in the earlier years of the fight - "In My Room," "Don't Worry Baby," etc.

toomanyhatz wrote:The answer to this question is: June 14th, 1965. "Yesterday," "I've Just Seen a Face" and "I'm Down" were all recorded that day.


Which was about one week after Brian finished "California Girls" (lyrically, it doesn't hold up to those three, but musically, i think it easily surpasses each) and about a month before he started recording Pet Sounds.
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