Pink Floyd vs Sex Pistols
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This really is the stupidest debate I have ever read on BCB. I don't even like Pink Floyd much. They had a blue period which includes Atom Heart mother and Meddle, and i am fond of some of Wish you were here and Ummagumma. But as a rule, they bore me, and I absolutely despise the wall and the Final Cut. Even taking this into account, The Sex Pistols look like bottom of the bill at one one of Anna's punk reunion shows. Even Jeffrey Oicott would be preferable to hearing anything by the fucking pistols. The whole assumption that they were good or important is codswallop. They made one good single, and imploded. The same goes for million other bands. The Pistols mean nothing now, and they meant nothing in 1977. They were a sideshow. A pityful, ugly, third rate, untalented, ill mannered and overhyped sideshow. If you are shallow enough to consider Never Mind the Bollocks important, you need to have a word with yourself.
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Why can't people discuss the Pistols without using red-herring words like 'important', 'ideology', 'mythology' and 'revolution'?
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They only made an impact on people who didn't already know better. The floyd made a big impact when they first appeared too. i remember stories of outrage at their drug fueled shows, and stories of lsd in sugarlumps at the door . The Pistols were nothing. less than nothing, just a sideshow in a fair that had already left town.
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the science eel wrote:Why can't people discuss the Pistols without using red-herring words like 'important', 'ideology', 'mythology' and 'revolution'?
How about rubbish, irrelevant, dumb, incompetent and useless.
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Anyway. They've won. Which is only right.
Now - who's next?
Now - who's next?
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the science eel wrote:Anyway. They've won. Which is only right.
Now - who's next?
I can soon fix that you know...
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yomptepi wrote:the science eel wrote:Anyway. They've won. Which is only right.
Now - who's next?
I can soon fix that you know...
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I haven't read the thread, but will when I get a chance.
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The Pistols. Because Yomp doesn't like them Only kidding about Yomp. Pink Floyd can bore me. The Pistols never have.
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I see Syd's Floyd and no-Syd Floyd as two different bands and I assume the one that's being talked about here is really the no-Syd Floyd.
I quite like some of their tunes but I can't bear the lyrics so I'm not really a fan.
As for the Sex Pistols, I agree with Yomp that the album wasn't up to much but I still rate the first three singles very highly. And, yes, they did make a big splash in their day and Yomp's comments to the contrary are laughable revisionism. Doesn't mean you have to rate them but I like that sort of thing. It still makes me smile to remember that stuff.
I quite like some of their tunes but I can't bear the lyrics so I'm not really a fan.
As for the Sex Pistols, I agree with Yomp that the album wasn't up to much but I still rate the first three singles very highly. And, yes, they did make a big splash in their day and Yomp's comments to the contrary are laughable revisionism. Doesn't mean you have to rate them but I like that sort of thing. It still makes me smile to remember that stuff.
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As to the charge that BCB has become less argumentative and highly charged, it's probably true. I personally have less will to fight other people's views on things these days, or to sit for an hour to describe something to the best of my ability. We've been through so much together, so many of us, and much of the time we know how the other person is going to respond, how far the other person will go with something, and who is going to change and who isn't. It's funny, when there is a new person on the board asking a question, I usually get more excited about posting a passionate case for somethingorother.
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Re: Pink Floyd vs Sex Pistols
yomptepi wrote:The floyd made a big impact when they first appeared too. i remember stories of outrage at their drug fueled shows, and stories of lsd in sugarlumps at the door.
Not strictly on-topic, but Rob Chapman's excellent recent book on Syd Barrett, A Very Irregular Head punctures several of the myths about Syd-era Floyd and drugs. Yes, they took some drugs but several of the stories are just that, stories.
"U2 routinely spent a year in the studio...I have a theory: if you put four monkeys in the studio for a year with Lanois and Eno and Lillywhite, they would make a pretty good record, too."
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Re: Pink Floyd vs Sex Pistols
Jimmy Jazz wrote:No man born with a living soul
can be voting for the Pink Floyd.
Well, I did, precisely because I have a living soul.
Do the Sex Pistols believe in souls anyways?
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What about those of us who were constituted by adding water to Quik-E Human™ powder? Can we vote for Pink Floyd?
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Re: Pink Floyd vs Sex Pistols
Jimmy Jazz wrote:No man born with a living soul
can be voting for the Pink Floyd.
That explains my vote, I suppose.
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Re: Pink Floyd vs Sex Pistols
This is a somewhat surprising poll because the only thing in common that these bands posses is they both came from the UK......Their music is not even close to being similar and it is foolish to try to put them in the same sentence......For the record I like Pink Floyd much better because they actually had a body of work that could be considered a career of quality music.
How would you like to be remembered? Oh I don't know. I suppose if we are remembered as a great little rock and roll band it would be fine.........
Re: Pink Floyd vs Sex Pistols
yellowjacket wrote:Their music is not even close to being similar and it is foolish to try to put them in the same sentence...
Here we go with this fucking bullshit again.
Similarities don't come into it when pitting one artist against other.
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the science eel wrote:yellowjacket wrote:Their music is not even close to being similar and it is foolish to try to put them in the same sentence...
Here we go with this fucking bullshit again.
Similarities don't come into it when pitting one artist against other.
Yes they do, a qualitative comparison is based on similarities, and their success at every aspect.
The reason why I can say I like Pink Floyd better is because there's no way I enjoy Nevermind the Bollocks as much as Meddle for what they try to achieve, but I enjoy each for different purposes. The same way I'm not going to go to Meddle to get aggressive upbeat music, I'm not going to go to Nevermind the Bollocks for an immersive sensorial experience either (or at least not the kind Pink Floyd offers). The thing is, for the reason I'd go with the Pistols, I'd often rather go with PiL, Minutemen or Stooges instead. Now those would be impossible to pit against Floyd, in my mind.
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algroth wrote:the science eel wrote:yellowjacket wrote:Their music is not even close to being similar and it is foolish to try to put them in the same sentence...
Here we go with this fucking bullshit again.
Similarities don't come into it when pitting one artist against other.
Yes they do, a qualitative comparison is based on similarities, and their success at every aspect.
The reason why I can say I like Pink Floyd better is because there's no way I enjoy Nevermind the Bollocks as much as Meddle for what they try to achieve, but I enjoy each for different purposes. The same way I'm not going to go to Meddle to get aggressive upbeat music, I'm not going to go to Nevermind the Bollocks for an immersive sensorial experience either (or at least not the kind Pink Floyd offers). The thing is, for the reason I'd go with the Pistols, I'd often rather go with PiL, Minutemen or Stooges instead. Now those would be impossible to pit against Floyd, in my mind.
You can pit whoever you want against whoever you want. It doesn't matter.
We've reached 10 pages and it's been fun. Which is more than you can say for most threads here.
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Reading this thread, the first thing that came to my mind was:
"Well keep going, chief. Keep going. Go on, you've got another ten seconds. Say something outrageous."
"Well keep going, chief. Keep going. Go on, you've got another ten seconds. Say something outrageous."