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A Beatles Thread - The Beatles Live

Postby Phenomenal Cat » 12 Jul 2018, 15:44

I never did buy the new Hollywood Bowl LP. The Beatles live is a sketchy proposition. They had lousy equipment, no monitors, screaming girls, short sets, no rehearsal, death threats, etc. Pop music was for kids, and that's who The Beatles played for, whether the kids were actually listening or not. Ironically, The Beatles were instrumental in making pop into something that post-teens could appreciate around the time they stopped touring.

Here's a sample set list from each year. Which show would you prefer to witness? Second, give us a 12-15 song Dream Set List, choosing anything up until late 1966. No expenses spared.

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1963
From Me To You
I Saw Her Standing There
All My Loving
Roll Over Beethoven
Boys
'Till There Was You
She Loves You
This Boy
I Want To Hold Your Hand
Money (That's What I Want)
Twist And Shout
From Me To You (Reprise)

1964
Twist And Shout
You Can't Do That
All My Loving
She Loves You
Things We Said Today
Roll Over Beethoven
Can't Buy Me Love
If I Fell
I Want To Hold Your Hand
Boys
A Hard Day's Night
Long Tall Sally

1965
Twist And Shout
She's A Woman
I'm A Loser
Can't Buy Me Love
Baby's In Black
I Wanna Be Your Man
A Hard Day's Night
Everybody's Trying To Be My Baby
Rock And Roll Music
I Feel Fine
Ticket To Ride
Long Tall Sally

1966
Rock And Roll Music
She's A Woman
If I Needed Someone
Day Tripper
Baby's In Black
I Feel Fine
Yesterday
I Wanna Be Your Man
Nowhere Man
Paperback Writer
I'm Down
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Re: A Beatles Thread - The Beatles Live

Postby Charlie O. » 12 Jul 2018, 15:57

This is about more than set lists, as any great live music experience is. I'd choose 1963, when performers and audience alike were fresh and things hadn't gotten completely out of hand; that said, I'd be more than happy to take in a '64 or '65 performance. The bloom was off the rose a bit by '66 - still, if someone with a time machine said "I'm going to see The Beatles at Mid-South Coliseum in 1966, you wanna tag along?" yeah, I reckon I would, thanks.

By the way, the Hollywood Bowl album - in any iteration - kicks ass.
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Re: A Beatles Thread - The Beatles Live

Postby Count Machuki » 12 Jul 2018, 16:24

1969
"Get Back" (three takes)
"Don't Let Me Down" (two takes)
"I've Got a Feeling" (two takes)
"One After 909" (one take)
"Dig a Pony" (one take)

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Postby Count Machuki » 12 Jul 2018, 16:28

Of the available options, I'd take 64 in a heartbeat.
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Postby Dor-Relip Hotels and Bathings » 12 Jul 2018, 16:29

'63 for me too please.

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Postby Phenomenal Cat » 12 Jul 2018, 17:01

The addition of A Hard Day's Night tracks makes 1964 my favored set.

My dream late-1966 set list (no expenses spared)

It Won't Be Long
All My Loving
This Boy
I'm Looking Through You
Love You To
Please Please Me
She Loves You
Every Little Thing
If I Fell
Here, There & Everywhere
I Should Have Known Better
In My Life
Ticket To Ride
I Want To Hold Your Hand
Yellow Submarine
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Postby Bent Fabric » 12 Jul 2018, 17:18

They are kicking so much ass in 1963. That Swedish broadcast is downright feral (and the recording from a year earlier at Star Club can't really hope to transcend its "party going on several doors down" patina of sonic gauze). Things are still pretty fucking hot in '64 (and I'd certainly go back and see them at ANY point in their lifetime as a live act - most people I know who actually saw them were at the 1966 St. Louis show where they played in the rain and got shoved into the back of a dark moving van...the very moment at which Paul finally volunteered the fourth and final vote to end the touring once and for all).

So 1963 for me.

What would I want to see?

PLEASE PLEASE ME
THANK YOU GIRL
THE NIGHT BEFORE
HONEY DON'T
YOU CAN'T DO THAT
IF I NEEDED SOMEONE
MONEY (THAT'S WHAT I WANT)
TO KNOW HER IS TO LOVE HER
BABY'S IN BLACK
SHE'S A WOMAN
SHE LOVES YOU
LONG TALL SALLY

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Postby sloopjohnc » 12 Jul 2018, 17:21

I was thinking of this the other day. I came to the conclusion that all those Beatles copy bands probably do a better set than the actual Beatles ever did except for on the rooftop in Let it Be.
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Postby Phenomenal Cat » 12 Jul 2018, 17:23

Bent Fabric wrote:TO KNOW HER IS TO LOVE HER


Yes!
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Postby Bent Fabric » 12 Jul 2018, 17:26

John Lennon's recollection was that by the time they'd taken their act on the road, all of the magic had been polished right out of it.

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Postby sloopjohnc » 12 Jul 2018, 17:32

'66 and then '65

With one caveat. I would like to hear them do 'Til There Was You. Beautiful cover from the Music Man.
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Postby Phenomenal Cat » 12 Jul 2018, 17:32

Bent Fabric wrote:John Lennon's recollection was that by the time they'd taken their act on the road, all of the magic had been polished right out of it.


Despite relying mostly on covers, I'd take one of those Hamburg sets with Ringo over just about anything. "I'm Gonna Sit Right Down and Cry"!
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Postby Bent Fabric » 12 Jul 2018, 17:37

Phenomenal Cat wrote:
Bent Fabric wrote:John Lennon's recollection was that by the time they'd taken their act on the road, all of the magic had been polished right out of it.


Despite relying mostly on covers, I'd take one of those Hamburg sets with Ringo over just about anything. "I'm Gonna Sit Right Down and Cry"!


I'm a massive fan of their pre-Beatlemania repertoire - something like 8 million songs, all lovingly rendered. We're lucky they kept trotting that stuff out at the BBC. Seeing them on the last German trip or at the Cavern, before they started playing a "programme", would have been something else. It's one of those things like The Pink Floyd at UFO that...if you were there, you were there...but if you weren't, you'll never really know what you missed

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Postby Stille Baron » 12 Jul 2018, 17:53

Phenomenal Cat wrote:
Bent Fabric wrote:John Lennon's recollection was that by the time they'd taken their act on the road, all of the magic had been polished right out of it.


Despite relying mostly on covers, I'd take one of those Hamburg sets with Ringo over just about anything. "I'm Gonna Sit Right Down and Cry"!


Yeah, that would be my preference.
After that then probably ‘63.
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Postby toomanyhatz » 12 Jul 2018, 18:05

'63 or '64. '64 setlist is better, but I think they'd started to get a bit, shall we say, inconsistent by then.

So as long as we're dreaming - Revolver was the new album at the time of their final shows. Pretending they got a temporary new lease on life by trying out some of the new songs live - OK, but let's also be realistic and admit that they weren't going to attempt "Tomorrow Never Knows" either - the set list might have looked something like this:

A Hard Day's Night
Taxman
Dr. Robert
And Your Bird Can Sing
Here, There and Everywhere
We Can Work it Out
Act Naturally
All My Loving
Day Tripper
Yesterday
I'm Down
Twist and Shout
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toomanyhatz wrote:'63 or '64. '64 setlist is better, but I think they'd started to get a bit, shall we say, inconsistent by then.

So as long as we're dreaming - Revolver was the new album at the time of their final shows. Pretending they got a temporary new lease on life by trying out some of the new songs live - OK, but let's also be realistic and admit that they weren't going to attempt "Tomorrow Never Knows" either - the set list might have looked something like this:

A Hard Day's Night
Taxman
Dr. Robert
And Your Bird Can Sing
Here, There and Everywhere
We Can Work it Out
Act Naturally
All My Loving
Day Tripper
Yesterday
I'm Down
Twist and Shout


I like it.
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Postby Phenomenal Cat » 12 Jul 2018, 19:27

toomanyhatz wrote:OK, but let's also be realistic and admit that they weren't going to attempt "Tomorrow Never Knows" either


But, if given the time to properly rehearse and aided by tape loops (perhaps on a mellotron), who says it couldn't be done? If anything, I think four guys in matching jackets plugging away at it would probably kill the mystique. But I'd love to see them try.
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Postby Snarfyguy » 12 Jul 2018, 19:33

Phenomenal Cat wrote:
Bent Fabric wrote:TO KNOW HER IS TO LOVE HER


Yes!

Great choice - a highlight of the Star Club album.
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Postby Bent Fabric » 12 Jul 2018, 19:58

toomanyhatz wrote:We Can Work it Out


They performed this on their final UK tour (18 concerts in 9 cities) - odd to think that not one single recording has surfaced (broadcast or audience). It's the type of number that had the potential to be either shambolic or heroic in their hands at that time.

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Postby bobzilla77 » 12 Jul 2018, 21:10

Fantasy set list 1965ish.

I Saw Her Standing There
You Can't Do That
All My Loving
Bad Boy
The Word
Things We Said Today
I'm Happy Just To Dance With You
Paperback Writer
Think For Yourself
Matchbox
Rock and Roll Music
I Wanna Hold Your Hand
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